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« on: March 23, 2005, 10:41:05 PM »
What's your opinion? Is it the Motif, Phantom, Triton, Somethang else? Let's get it started in here!!!

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2005, 11:00:10 PM »
I think it's either the Nord 2 or the (don't laugh) Casio 3500. I think that casio is somewhere in the picture because, you can create your own drawbar sounds. Evan though there is alot of keyboards that can do that it's something about that casio when you takeit through a guitar effects pedal from the simulated leslie sound then take it through a full sound system. I think Casio (for some odd reason) has outdone themselves with that keyboard.

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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2005, 09:49:48 AM »
Are you speaking of general keyboards? or are the CX3, XK2/3, and Roland BK organs out?

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2005, 10:37:23 AM »
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Are you speaking of general keyboards? or are the CX3, XK2/3, and Roland BK organs out?


I'm referring to any Keyboard, but even the three I mentioned above, I just want the opinion of expert Organ Playas.

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2005, 10:41:38 AM »
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I think it's either the Nord 2 or the (don't laugh) Casio 3500. I think that casio is somewhere in the picture because, you can create your own drawbar sounds. Evan though there is alot of keyboards that can do that it's something about that casio when you takeit through a guitar effects pedal from the simulated leslie sound then take it through a full sound system. I think Casio (for some odd reason) has outdone themselves with that keyboard.

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I've tried some of those casio keyboards, and they are the most authentic that I've heard. But then I've heard some samples of the Motif on the Yamaha website. Comon somebody!! I might just have to buy an original Hammond, but if I can get away with it I will.

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2005, 11:09:40 AM »
IT'S NOTHIN BETTER THAN A HAMMOND ORGAN...WHO CAN BEAT IT??
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2005, 11:58:39 AM »
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IT'S NOTHIN BETTER THAN A HAMMOND ORGAN...WHO CAN BEAT IT??


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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2005, 05:07:04 PM »
Diversi comes reeeeel close!!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2005, 05:34:53 PM »
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Diversi comes reeeeel close!!!!!


It may come close but no cigar :lol:  :lol:  :lol: You can NEVER beat a orginator at it's own game!  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2005, 10:51:55 AM »
If you're going for strictly Hammond sounds, you can't beat a vintage Hammond organ.  

B3s are certainly the most expensive, but C3s are a little less, but the SAME instrument.  An A 100 is the same as a B3 and C3.  It has internal speakers, but does have a speaker out connection and is less expensive than the B and C.

One organ that I don't hear too much about is the E-111.  You can get one of these for less than 1000 dollars.  This was my 1st Hammond, and I traded it to a studio for recording time.  They were made in the late 60s, and should not be confused with the prewar Model E, which is another kind of organ all together....

Drawbacks-cheesy percussion, one set of drawbars per manual, does not have the left hand keyboard presets, but these annoying tabs, and top heavy-becareful when moving, also has the 'diving board' keys rather than the 'waterfall keys that most other Hammonds have.

Pros-has great chorus and vibrato, reverb, cost, internals and sound is the same as a B3, full size pedals.   B3 percussion is available from Trek, and this percussion system adds volume control to percussion at your console rather than just loud or soft.  

If you're looking for a smaller unit, the Hammond XK3 is really where it's at.  The features are incredible.  Did you know the key click on the new Hammond organs is not synthesized, but is actually key clicks caused by the contacts for each of the drawbars?  Thats just like the original Hammonds are.  The XK3 also has the same kind of presets the b3 has, the flipped keys.  The panel on the Xk3 is very close to the real thing.  Two of these stacked would look like a real organ.  That's my dream set up.  

The biggest advantage the Nord electro has over the xk3 is that the nord has a lot of vintage keyboard sounds besides the Hammond.  Some people might be put off by the drawbar situation on the Nord, but after having spent some time with it, I really like it-check it out and see what you think.  Also, additional Nord sounds are downloadable from Nord'a website directly to the Nord.
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2005, 02:22:39 PM »
My organ teacher, david brock, told me that the hammonds organs are the king... of all the music and if thats not true alot of people aren't telling the truth.  Lots of musicians can't afford the "king".  So, my next thing would be is a similar sound.

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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2005, 04:26:39 PM »
Well we've established that nothing is like a real Hammond with a leslie. However I know you're asking about what comes the closest to the real thing. In my opinion, next to the nord electro, it would have to be the VK-8\VK-8M. The problem I have with the nord is you can't edit any parameters whatsoever. So what you hear is what you get basically. Also I noticed the tremolo is a little heavy on the upper notes. I listened to several demo's of the VK-8/8M and I was very impressed with overall tone. I also liked the leslie sim. You can also edit the parameters to match your taste. Plus I prefer having real drawbars. Just make sure if you have one of these units that you're using version 2.0 because that fixes the leslie sim issue that they had with 1.0. I'm buying the VK-8M (module version of the VK-8) and using it with my Casio WK-3500.

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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2005, 11:25:55 PM »
The guys of at harmony central always say that the roland vk module is nice...i like the feel and thought of having some drawbars..and bring out that hammond king sound. Thats my next purchase. :wink:

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2005, 08:37:47 AM »
hammond/suzuki XK3. Hands down winner!

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2005, 11:17:10 AM »
And XK-3 and a leslie, I'd be in heaven. That internal leslie though. I just didn't care for it.

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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2005, 09:34:02 PM »
c3hamby wrote:
If you're looking for a smaller unit, the Hammond XK3 is really where it's at. The features are incredible. Did you know the key click on the new Hammond organs is not synthesized, but is actually key clicks caused by the contacts for each of the drawbars? Thats just like the original Hammonds are. The XK3 also has the same kind of presets the b3 has, the flipped keys. The panel on the Xk3 is very close to the real thing. Two of these stacked would look like a real organ


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Well C3hamby, see what is coming mid-May 2005 .  It is the sweetest set up I have ever seen for a XK-3.  Seen it in Keyboard Magazine April 2005 issue.
Check it out at:  www.hammondorganco.com  

I'm sure it will be expensive, but probably less then a B3 portable. (15,000)

Hook this little baby up to a new 122 leslie and you will be so close to a B3 it wouldn't be worth breaking your back to take one on the road.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2005, 02:46:18 PM »
As far as keyboards or synths(ones that aren't portable organs)  I'd have to say the Triton Extreme has excellent organs try the patch called "cx-3 chorale" (my favorite) or I'd recommend the Nord electro.

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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2005, 02:54:02 PM »
I play my XK3 through powered studio monitors. The amp or speaker is just as important as the board itself. A casio can sound passible through a real leslie. So the leslie simulator on the XK3 is not bad through my biased ears.

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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2005, 10:01:50 PM »
I appreciate yall's opinions up in this forum. This is good "preaching" in here. Deffinately keep this section posted for any updates, anything new. Never the less, there will be nothin, and I mean nothin that can ever replace a gracious Hammond Organ. Peace!
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2005, 10:08:27 AM »
I like the kurzweil pc2 when it come to the organ.It has a leslie switch ont there.
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