Topic: No more transpose challenge! (Read 5983 times)

chevonee · « **on:** March 02, 2010, 03:56:14 PM »

I'm sure that you all have heard of the course "No more transpose" by Jamal Hartwell. I decided to buy this course so that I could learn to play more proficiently in all of my keys. So far so good but please pray for me you guys because it is much easier to stay the same than it is to change. I would also say that this course is worth every dime it costs and it is the only course that I've ever seen that really challenges you to be the best you can be in every key.

T-Block · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2010, 06:44:33 PM »

Praying for ya Von Von!!!

Mysteryman · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2010, 05:00:15 PM »

Quote from: chevonee on March 02, 2010, 03:56:14 PM

I'm sure that you all have heard of the course "No more transpose" by Jamal Hartwell. I decided to buy this course so that I could learn to play more proficiently in all of my keys. So far so good but please pray for me you guys because it is much easier to stay the same than it is to change. I would also say that this course is worth every dime it costs and it is the only course that I've ever seen that really challenges you to be the best you can be in every key.

I haven't seen it but you could have paid me. lol I could teach you to get out of transpose.

vwebster · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2010, 04:19:44 PM »

So...how is the course set up? Does it run you through scales or what? I like to hear about the different courses. Most seem waaaaay over my head, though.

chevonee · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2010, 04:48:53 PM »

Quote from: vwebster on March 05, 2010, 04:19:44 PM

So...how is the course set up? Does it run you through scales or what? I like to hear about the different courses. Most seem waaaaay over my head, though.

Basically it is a downloadable program. Jamal Hartwell gives you different progressions, preacher chords, riffs, etc in every key. He basically challenges you to do the work but he guides you.

berbie · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2010, 05:11:47 PM »

It dovetails with his "learn to play by ear" course. The info that is given in that course(which is all in the key of C) is transposed to every key. He also has progressions in every key to go with it. The chords that he gives are fat(phat) contemporary chords. The course is downloaded and can be printed out on your computer. (a lot of printing) It is a lot to learn, but is handy to have to learn parts(keys) of it as desired.
If a person learned all of it, they would certainly be able to slow down on their use of the transpose button.

In my mind it is very contemporary, though.

Vonne, do you plan to learn all of it?

chevonee · « **Reply #6 on:** March 08, 2010, 09:49:55 PM »

Quote from: berbie on March 05, 2010, 05:11:47 PM

It dovetails with his "learn to play by ear" course. The info that is given in that course(which is all in the key of C) is transposed to every key. He also has progressions in every key to go with it. The chords that he gives are fat(phat) contemporary chords. The course is downloaded and can be printed out on your computer. (a lot of printing) It is a lot to learn, but is handy to have to learn parts(keys) of it as desired.
If a person learned all of it, they would certainly be able to slow down on their use of the transpose button.

In my mind it is very contemporary, though.

Vonne, do you plan to learn all of it?

I'm going to take it step by step like he said which makes it alot easier. He said it should take about a year.

themidiroom · « **Reply #7 on:** March 09, 2010, 10:02:05 AM »

Play on an old Hammond and you'll learn.

Sorry.

berbie · « **Reply #8 on:** March 09, 2010, 02:11:48 PM »

If a person internalized all of that, I don't see how they would have any problem with contemporary music and some other music at all. It is a lot to cover though. May God bless your effort. I know that it can be done. I am too lazy, though. I learned a few popular keys to some extent. (smile)

chevonee · « **Reply #9 on:** March 09, 2010, 05:36:27 PM »

Quote from: berbie on March 09, 2010, 02:11:48 PM

If a person internalized all of that, I don't see how they would have any probleem with contemporary music and some other music at all. It is a lt to cover though. May God bless your effort. I know that it can be done. I am too lazy, though. I learned a few popular keys to some extent. (smile)

God gone have to have mercy on me my friend....ALOT OF MERCY!!!! When you look at the totality of the information that has to be learned it looks UNBELIEVABLE!!

PLEASE PRAY FOR YA SISTAH!!!

berbie · « **Reply #10 on:** March 09, 2010, 10:50:16 PM »

I will. Chev, and I really hope the best for you in this effort. It makes me want to try harder at it myself.

Mysteryman · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2010, 08:54:35 AM »

Fir anyone watching I will get you out of transpose for the low price of three $19.99 payments.

On the real though I can help anyone get out of transpose. I made a post a while back for beginners and no one responded. Would have gotten free online lessons. lol But now I'm tied up.

chevonee · « **Reply #12 on:** March 10, 2010, 07:13:43 PM »

Quote from: Mysteryman on March 10, 2010, 08:54:35 AM

Fir anyone watching I will get you out of transpose for the low price of three $19.99 payments. On the real though I can help anyone get out of transpose. I made a post a while back for beginners and no one responded. Would have gotten free online lessons. lol But now I'm tied up.

You fuh real?? $19.99? Where iz this here post you spoda bke done posted? I'm serious this stuff is killin me right now...fa'real!

$:-\$

B3Wannabe · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2010, 05:22:55 PM »

Quote from: Mysteryman on March 10, 2010, 08:54:35 AM

Fir anyone watching I will get you out of transpose for the low price of three $19.99 payments. On the real though I can help anyone get out of transpose. I made a post a while back for beginners and no one responded. Would have gotten free online lessons. lol But now I'm tied up.

Quote from: chevonee on March 10, 2010, 07:13:43 PM

You fuh real?? $19.99? Where iz this here post you spoda bke done posted? I'm serious this stuff is killin me right now...fa'real! :'( $:-\$

Indeed. I did one too....way back in 2005. I can't find it now, but it may be in here somewhere.

Fenix · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2010, 10:42:10 AM »

Question: Are transposers musicians?

SisterCM · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2010, 10:51:58 AM »

Quote from: Fenix on March 20, 2010, 10:42:10 AM

Question: Are transposers musicians?

now why you want to start something???

T-Block · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2010, 07:32:27 AM »

Quote from: Fenix on March 20, 2010, 10:42:10 AM

Question: Are transposers musicians?

I don't know if your serious or not, but just in case you are, here's 14 pages of answers, LOL: http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,56722.0.html

Kevykev388 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 29, 2010, 10:41:52 PM »

Couldn't have said it any better! I can testify to that! If one is available, playing on a hammomd in service will definitely shorten the learning time. It has for0 me at least. I've been on the organ two Sundays a month for about three months and I am not fluent with runs and such but I am pretty solid with c Db D Eb F G and Ab, usual church keys. I use to be strictly key of C for almost 14 years and have made this DRASTIC change I'm just 3-4 months

Quote from: themidiroom on March 09, 2010, 10:02:05 AM

Play on an old Hammond and you'll learn. Sorry.

Mysteryman · « **Reply #18 on:** March 30, 2010, 02:46:46 PM »

How to learn all keys.

1. Major Scales in every key. If you know major scales you will know the minor. Just have to work on fingering.

2. Learn how to form triads: major, minor, diminished, augmented, suspended 2 and 4. Main thing here is that you understand how they formed.

3. Learn the circle of 4ths and 5ths and the relative minor chords. You need to know how the keys relate. You will understand this more and more over time.

4. Learn basic progressions: 1-4-5, 2-5-1, 3-6-2-5-1, 7-3-6-2-5-1 in that order. This is the mysteryman method.

All you need is a basic understanding of number 3 and 4 if you are a beginner. The knowledge will come over time.

Now once you grasp these for things you take simple songs and learn the simple progressions in every key. For example learn "Lord I Lift Your Name on High" in all keys using the 1-4-5. You should know this progression in all keys if you don't know the others.
Ex 1-4-5
Notice if you follow the circle of 4ths you only have to learn one new chord.

In the key of C you play Cmaj, Fmaj, Gmaj.
In the key of F you play Fmaj, Bbmaj, Cmaj.

If you follow the circle of fifths you only have to learn one new chord.

In the key of C you play Cmaj, Fmaj, Gmaj.
In the key of G you play Gmaj, Cmaj, Dmaj.
mysteryman

The circle of 4ths and 5ths makes practicing very easy for you. If you can play in one key you can play in the keys to the right and left of it following the circle. There is so much more I can add but I follow these basic principles when I do practice serious. lol

Copyright 2010 "Learn to Play in 24 Hours." haha

I wanted to prove this a while back but no one responded to a post I made a while back. Either not many people come in here or they were just not interested in learning. The mysteryman method.

if you want to progress quickly first you must pray and you should find an outlet to use your abilities. If you don't have an outlet sing the song as you play and get into it. If you can make the practice fun, playing will get better.

Again if anyone needs help learning hit me on yahoo messenger mysterymman1. I'm not charging just trying to be a blessing.

Got one person I'm helping we will see how fast he progresses.

Fenix · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2010, 09:25:38 PM »

Dude, if you were teaching guitar, it would be great.

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