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[Dwreck]

LOL! Probably!

Especially since I was just learning it myself, so I probably wasn't able to convey the concepts properly.

I remember posting the same thing Dwreck posted, but with a different spin on it.

That is some incredible stuff dude! i'm loving it!!!!! You're gonna make me call in sick so I can chat with you all day and pick your brain. Incredible!!!!! 

[sjonathan02]

Excellent. The next question, I guess, is when would one use these modes?

So, I'm back to this question ^^^^^^^

[berbie]

I'll second that question, SJ.

berbie

[T-Block]

The main way that I use modes is with runs. Most of my runs consist of the major scale notes. So, whatever note I start the run on, I just run the major scale up or down until I want to stop.

I don't consciously think of what mode to use, I just look at it as I'm playing the major scale. That's just me though, maybe so other LGMers use modes more.

[Dwreck]

So, I'm back to this question ^^^^^^^

What I am discovering is the use of modes while playing chords built on fourths, ie., F-Bb-Eb. When playing a chord of this nature I have found that you can play, Gb maj, Ab maj, Bb maj, Db maj, & Eb maj. This happens to spell out the Gb69 chord & each of these scales entails the three notes of the chord being played. Bare with me if you're not getting this as I am still working with this. Also, you can play a Ab minor (w/maj 7), Bb minor (w/maj 7), & Eb minor (w/maj 7). I want to figure out how to incorporate the modes with each type of chord and memorize the scales that can be played with each type of chord so that I can have an array of scales at my disposal that will work so long as the resolution is sound. Hope this makes sense to yoy all.

[jonesl78]

Modes are very useful when you want to find a complimenting scale with an altered chord. For example you can play a regular C Major scale ( C D E F G A B) with a CM13 chord (C E G B D F A). However, this Major scale will clash with the chord if the chord is altered; For example C13 or CM13b7 ( C E G Bb D F A). It would be useful to incorporate another scale such as the C mixolodian.((F major scale)C D E F G A Bb) This scale contains the b7 or dominate 7 that is need to accompany the C13 chord.

A chord that contains all major intervals will usually go with any mode with respect to the original key.(i.e second degree scale of C, D minor, will go with C ionian, D Dorian, E phrygian, etc) because they all contain the notes of the C major scale.

Modes are not limited to the major scale. They can be used with any scale. For example,the chord C7b9b13( BbDbEAb)could be used with a C mixolodian harmonic minor scale
( F harmonic minor scale - C Db E F G Ab Bb)       

[docjohn]

yo Jones,about your CM 13th;is that really a chord? I thought once you went  to the 7th and beyond,it was an implied dominant 7 th(Bb).

[jonesl78]

yo Jones,about your CM 13th;is that really a chord? I thought once you went  to the 7th and beyond,it was an implied dominant 7 th(Bb).

Its really a chord. C E G B A = C Major 13
                    C E G Bb A= C dominate 13
                    C Eb G B A = C minor major 13

The 7th determines whether you have a dominate or major  7th chord. Also the 7th has to be present in order to have a 9th, 11th, or 13th with the exception of the add9( CEGD)