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Rjthakid

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Runs over Chords
« on: January 03, 2008, 12:05:19 PM »
This is something I've been working on lately.

Post a Left hand chord and a run that you like to do over it.

#1:


Lh: F-G-Bb-Db

Rh Run (downward run):

F, Eb, Db, C, Bb, G, (repeat)

Fingering: 4-3-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-1 etc.




#2:

Lh: E-G-A-C

Rh Run (downward run):

C pentatonic scale:

C, A, G, E, D, (repeat)

Fingering: 5-3-2-1-2-1-3-2-1-2-1-3-2-1-2-1 etc.

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2008, 12:42:32 PM »
This is something I've been working on lately.

Post a Left hand chord and a run that you like to do over it.

#1:


Lh: F-G-Bb-Db

Rh Run (downward run):

F, Eb, Db, C, Bb, G, (repeat)

Fingering: 4-3-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-1-3-2-1 etc.




#2:

Lh: E-G-A-C

Rh Run (downward run):

C pentatonic scale:

C, A, G, E, D, (repeat)

Fingering: 5-3-2-1-2-1-3-2-1-2-1-3-2-1-2-1 etc.

Thanks Rjthakid!

I appreciate these runs.  In fact, I've found a song where the run given in the first example fits perfectly!
As my right hand is descending with that run,  F, Eb, Db, C, Bb, G, when I hit that final "G" note, I play a
"Gdim7" chord in my left hand, (G-Bb-Db-Fb) / G, then I resolve it to an "Fmin" chord which is the
number 1 chord, and the key which the song is written in.

                                            Thanks again,  BroAllan  :)

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2008, 01:04:58 PM »
Thanks Rjthakid!

I appreciate these runs.  In fact, I've found a song where the run given in the first example fits perfectly!
As my right hand is descending with that run,  F, Eb, Db, C, Bb, G, when I hit that final "G" note, I play a
"Gdim7" chord in my left hand, (G-Bb-Db-Fb) / G, then I resolve it to an "Fmin" chord which is the
number 1 chord, and the key which the song is written in.

                                            Thanks again,  BroAllan  :)

Glad I could help.   :)

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2008, 04:24:08 PM »
Thanx Kid :)

I need to try these out & come up with something as well.
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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2008, 05:44:15 PM »
Thanks

I remember the first really "cool" thing i learned when i first began practicing piano was version of #2. Oldest trick in my book :) I swear i can do it (pentatonic scale) insanely quick in A-minor but I'm crap at it in other keys  :D

I like do this upwards movement instead with LH: A-C-E  and rh: C-D-E-D-E-G-E-G-A-G-A-C-A-C-D (Repeat)

                                             1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-(Repeat)

Practice it some in Aminor and you will have a blazing quick run that works in pretty much every "white" key  8)

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2008, 06:00:38 PM »
Hi Guybrush, welcome to the RLGM :)
Thanx 4 the post..can't wait to try it out.
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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2008, 06:20:30 PM »
Welcome to the LGM family "guybrush"....Be Blessed.

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2008, 06:31:03 PM »
Here's one.. it's called the "Cry Me A River" lick in jazz not the J. Timberlake but the one by Cole Porter

#1:

Lh: E-Ab-Bb-D#   C7 #9 b13 or Calt

Rh Run (downward run):

Eb, Db, Ab, E, Eb, Db, C

#9, b9, #5, 3, #9, b9, 1 - Scale numbers relative to C major scale

Fingering: 5-4-2-1-3-2-1

On that C, resolve to FMin or FMaj

In this video on YouTube this guy does it at the 1:09 mark over a Galt F-Ab-B-Eb /  Bb, Ab, Eb, B, Bb, Ab, G to resolve to CMaj7

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2008, 06:42:35 PM »
nice 1 DNat..can't w8 2 try it out on my board. 8)
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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2008, 02:26:38 AM »
Welcome to the LGM family guybrush!! God bless you!! :)




Thanks for the help guys! Runs are not my specialty but this really helps me ALOT ;)
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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2008, 06:08:35 AM »
Thanks a lot for these ideas.

Could someone maybe give a more high level definition of chords/runs ideas,
for instance in a 1-2-3-5 progression, you can use scale xyz on the 5 chord...

or something like this.

Thanks

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2008, 07:58:26 AM »

Here's one.. it's called the "Cry Me A River" lick in jazz not the J. Timberlake but the one by Cole Porter

#1:

Lh: E-Ab-Bb-D#   C7 #9 b13 or Calt

Rh Run (downward run):

Eb, Db, Ab, E, Eb, Db, C

#9, b9, #5, 3, #9, b9, 1 - Scale numbers relative to C major scale

Fingering: 5-4-2-1-3-2-1

On that C, resolve to FMin or FMaj

In this video on YouTube this guy does it at the 1:09 mark over a Galt F-Ab-B-Eb /  Bb, Ab, Eb, B, Bb, Ab, G to resolve to CMaj7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJcFnKTvz00#


I like this. 

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2008, 01:06:49 PM »
Welcome to the RLGM Tek_Uk :)

Thanks a lot for these ideas.

Could someone maybe give a more high level definition of chords/runs ideas,
for instance in a 1-2-3-5 progression, you can use scale xyz on the 5 chord...

or something like this.

Thanks

CO-SIGN..

I also think that will depend on the key U'r playing in.
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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 04:07:06 AM »
Here's another one.. the RH is doing a diminished whole tone scale (7th Mode of Melodic Minor

#1:

Lh: G-Bb-C#-F  A7 b9 b13  or Aalt

Rh Run (upward run):

A, Bb, C, Db, Eb, F, G, A, B

1, b9, #9, 3, b5, #5, 7, 1 - numbers relative to A major scale

Fingering: 1-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-4

On that B, resolve to Dmin (F-A-C-E in LH

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 05:59:43 AM »
Thanx Dnat..
can't wait to try that out 8)
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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2008, 10:12:06 AM »
Thanks a lot for these ideas.

Could someone maybe give a more high level definition of chords/runs ideas,
for instance in a 1-2-3-5 progression, you can use scale xyz on the 5 chord...

or something like this.

Thanks

Example #2 that RJ posted originally and the example guybrush posted are using the pentatonic scale...

degree I, II, III, V, & VI of the major scale

You can play these notes over most chords in LH or chord progression you are playing and you will not go wrong.

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2008, 10:18:52 AM »
"You can play these notes over most chords in LH or chord progression you are playing and you will not go wrong."

Granted the "Key" of the pentatonic scale you are using is the same "Key" as LH chords/progression you're playing...

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2008, 10:41:26 AM »
Wow, this thread is full of priceless gems.  I think i'm gonna add this link to the big theory sticky post in the General Music Hangout room.  Great job yall!!! :D
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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2008, 10:55:52 AM »
Wow, this thread is full of priceless gems.  I think i'm gonna add this link to the big theory sticky post in the General Music Hangout room.  Great job yall!!! :D

Thanks man with more to come.. As I work them out I'm going to post them..  Thanks for starting this off RJ.

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Re: Runs over Chords
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2008, 12:38:18 PM »
This is one I got from Gospelkeyboard.com:


LH Chord: G-Bb-Db-E (diminished)

RH Run:

Db, Bb, G, E, Eb, Db, C, Bb, Ab/A (Grace Note the Ab to the A)

4, 3, 2, 1, 3, 2, 1, 3, 2/2 (The '2' grace notes from Ab to A)


This is a NICE run when you get it fast enough.





This one I got from John Peters' Next Level


LH Chord: Eb-G-Db

RH Run:

Db, G, Db, Bb, G, Eb, D, C

3, 5, 3, 2, 1, 3, 2, 1
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