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« on: January 19, 2006, 09:26:59 AM »
:(  :(  :(  Hello people. Im at that point where im getting frustrated. MY church is 3 years and we dont have o keyboard player. We have a young man (17) who plays once a month . But thats it. I think theirs a lot of pressure on me. cause i want to learn and play now. but i get so FRUSTRATED. i read the post and dont have a clue what some of the things u guys are talking about. I dont think i have a ear for music. I led praise and worship at my church and i feel alot of pressure on me .what sould i do? where do i start. thank u so much for any help i recieve.

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2006, 09:42:30 AM »
In the piano or keyboard sections: (at the top of the screen)

piano.learngospelmusic.com or
keybaord.learngospelmusic.com

There are videos that give you step by step instructions on how to play different church songs, you could start there.  Thats probably the easiest place to get started because u don't have to really know anything, just follow the videos.

Also, in the 'Scale Book' Section of the site, there is a pdf file whcih you can download.  You should start learning all your Major Scales in all 12 keys.  The notes and fingering are given for you.

That should get you up and running in no time.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2006, 01:57:14 PM »
Hang in There, Frustrated.  I'm in the same boat as you.  Our church has just gotten started last Oct. It is still a very small congregation. There is one piano in the place and I try to peck out the hymns the best I can.  However, I am learning so much on my own..I have ordered Jermane Griggs 300-pg course and I can't wait to get started with this...
Pray for me and I'll pray for you..With God all things are possible!! 8)

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2006, 04:33:31 PM »
same here... I can't order the jermaine stuff yet... observed it several times.. so I have been checking outthis site to upgrade myself.. I get frustrated too.  I have been put in a place to place during altar call and offering...  T-Block.. has been such a great inspiration to me... T-block are you out there.. Thanks for helping all us beginners! we are just making ourselves available to the service of our Lord, Pastor and Congregation!  to him be all the glory!

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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2006, 11:00:34 AM »
Hey, I'm still here and I ain't going nowhere.  I am glad to be of service to everybody on the site.  I love music and I love to teach music as well. I want everybody to play at their best and that means putting in hours and hours of practice.  No transpose button will ever be as good as playing every key.  As long as you use all the tools I have put on this site, you will be able to reach your goals.  I will be happy to answer any more questions and help anyone who needs it.
Real musicians play in every key!!!
Music Theory, da numbers work!

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2006, 11:05:38 AM »
Diamonds and gold are made under pressure, saints.   :wink:

Be Blessed, everybody  :D
Joshua 1: 7, 8

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2006, 04:04:13 PM »
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Hey, I'm still here and I ain't going nowhere.  I am glad to be of service to everybody on the site.  I love music and I love to teach music as well. I want everybody to play at their best and that means putting in hours and hours of practice.  No transpose button will ever be as good as playing every key.  As long as you use all the tools I have put on this site, you will be able to reach your goals.  I will be happy to answer any more questions and help anyone who needs it.
i just dont no wear to start. i seen so many different this on the internet. i purchased hear and play and some other things but i dont get far at all. what excatly should i do first .(excatly) All i want to do is play for the lord.

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2006, 11:22:33 AM »
Music starts with your mind, which means music theory.  There is no way around it.  If you don't have the music theory in your head, then you just gonna be playing by ear, and you won't get very far just playing by ear.

You need to first know every single note on your keyboard.  Once you got that, then dive into learning your major scales.  There are 15 off them total and you should be able to recite them and their members w/out looking at a keyboard.  Then when you get to a keyboard, say each letter of the scale first then play.  

Next, move on to your basic chords: major, minor, augmented, diminished
chords.  As with the major scales, you should be able to recite them and their members w/out looking at a keyboard.  Then when you get to a keyboard, say each member of the chord first then play.  This goes for each of the inversions and for every key also.

Next, move on to progressions.  I have the progression posts on here so you can look for them by searching.  Practice each progression in every key as much as you can.  

Once you got a good handle on progressions, then listen to as many CDs as you can and start listening for 2-5-1s and 7-3-6s.  Listen for familiar chords that you know and try to play along if you can.

Tips: As you are going through each of the above exercises, pay very close attention to how everything looks and sounds.  If someone is playing
a major scale, you should be able to tell by sound if it is indeed a major scale.  This goes double for the chords and progressions.  You should be able to tell and hear the difference between a major chord in root position and a major chord in 2nd inversion.   You should be able to spot a 2-5-1 progression or a 7-3-6 progressions in a song by ear.  Like I said before, music starts in the mind so you have to train your mind harder than your fingers.
Real musicians play in every key!!!
Music Theory, da numbers work!

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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2006, 11:48:29 AM »
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Music starts with your mind, which means music theory.  There is no way around it.  If you don't have the music theory in your head, then you just gonna be playing by ear, and you won't get very far just playing by ear.

You need to first know every single note on your keyboard.  Once you got that, then dive into learning your major scales.  There are 15 off them total and you should be able to recite them and their members w/out looking at a keyboard.  Then when you get to a keyboard, say each letter of the scale first then play.  

Next, move on to your basic chords: major, minor, augmented, diminished
chords.  As with the major scales, you should be able to recite them and their members w/out looking at a keyboard.  Then when you get to a keyboard, say each member of the chord first then play.  This goes for each of the inversions and for every key also.

Next, move on to progressions.  I have the progression posts on here so you can look for them by searching.  Practice each progression in every key as much as you can.  

Once you got a good handle on progressions, then listen to as many CDs as you can and start listening for 2-5-1s and 7-3-6s.  Listen for familiar chords that you know and try to play along if you can.

Tips: As you are going through each of the above exercises, pay very close attention to how everything looks and sounds.  If someone is playing
a major scale, you should be able to tell by sound if it is indeed a major scale.  This goes double for the chords and progressions.  You should be able to tell and hear the difference between a major chord in root position and a major chord in 2nd inversion.   You should be able to spot a 2-5-1 progression or a 7-3-6 progressions in a song by ear.  Like I said before, music starts in the mind so you have to train your mind harder than your fingers.
O my sweet jesus im about to cry . thank u so much . u dont no how much that helps me.u are so bless. when i began to play for my church im goinh to think sbout god of course then about how much u helped me. :D  :lol:

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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2006, 11:56:57 AM »
It's o.k. meremere, you are very welcome.  That is what I'm here for, to help others like yourself to become the best musicians they possibly can for the glory of God.
Real musicians play in every key!!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2006, 02:41:10 PM »
Praise the Lord! I've been there.  
T-block is so right, know your music theory. And apply it.
Your scales and chords will help you immensly. Also it will help to play easy versions of your favorite hymns and P&W songs. If you have problems with the LH/RH notations trying chord or lead sheets. Sometimes those are a little easier to understand at first.  After a short time these two come together and you realize how it is done.

HTH

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2006, 03:27:24 PM »
Good afternoon everyone (family),

Another newbie here, to this site and the world of keyboarding and piano as well.  I stumbled onto the site yesterday by chance and since my job isn't really stressful or demanding, I've had the opportunity to read quite a few posts and check out a lot of great links.  My family background is encompassed with many singers (no musicians) and in my 32 years of being on this great earth, I've always wanted and envisioned being able to musically accompany myself throughout my own singing.  I've done praise & worship and some directing as well, but I feel my potential will peak if I learn to play (read and ear).  Therefore, one of my personal prayers for this year has been to learn; whether teaching myself (which is most probable being in the military) or utilizing a teacher.  With the consistency in the posts here, I feel as though I know most of you guys (gals) personally, but I can sense presence of true fellowship.  I look forward to learning and growing both musically/spiritually (and hopefully sharing in the future) as well as  communicating and updating my own progress as well.  Be blessed.

Yardnu (yar-nu) "I am here"
When the weight of the world has you down to your knees...you're in the perfect postion to pray.  Yardnu :-)
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