hardcore,i have to agree with you man...there is WAY too much rambling about who is the "best".everybody has to realize that there are millions of drummers on this planet and you haven't heard most of 'em.this is not a race,you know,it ain't no track and field...to me the importance of a drummer or a musician(or an artist for that matter)is measure by his uniquness.and everybody in this world is unique.no two drummers will sound alike.it just happens that some of us are more blessed(they have THE GIFT)but more importantly they put in the extra work and a higher level of dedication that sets them apart,you know?forget about competition,be the best that YOU can be...and share your knowledge,it'll make you a happier person.leave the rankings for the sports papers.