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Giving Piano Lessons
« on: November 13, 2007, 08:18:29 PM »
So i've seriously considering giving out piano lessons and stuff to those who may want them.  I'm just trying to figure out how where to start.  I even have a couple of people who came to me asking if I could teach them. 



Anybody have any suggestions on how exactly i get started on this??  like what kind of books i should use?  etc.??


 
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2007, 09:32:55 PM »
You can do like I did and just make a book of your own.  Put in your book the things you feel are the best things to learn on the keyboard.  Present the material in your own way.
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2007, 09:33:58 PM »
You can do like I did and just make a book of your own.  Put in your book the things you feel are the best things to learn on the keyboard.  Present the material in your own way.
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2007, 08:38:45 AM »
You can do like I did and just make a book of your own.  Put in your book the things you feel are the best things to learn on the keyboard.  Present the material in your own way.



hmmm....i've never thought of that.  Good Stuff!
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 03:12:02 PM »
I was use the Jermaine Griggs " Hear and Play" 300 page book. Lots of good stuff in there for new piano players.
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 04:30:13 PM »
I was use the Jermaine Griggs " Hear and Play" 300 page book. Lots of good stuff in there for new piano players.


Excellent answer Sam!

The name of Jermaine's book is "The Secret's To Playing The Piano By Ear" and I can tell you, it's definitely THE BEST!!!!!  I've had it for over 2 1/2 yrs and as a very satisfied customer, I can tell you that I've learned more from it in that time (even in the 1st few wks) than I have the rest of my life learning on my own, plus 5 yrs of MS & HS choir classes, and a 1 yr older beginner class in 9th grade.  It not only teaches you how to play the piano by ear, it also gives you a through understanding of music theory, the number system, Circle Of Fifths, forming scales chords and progressions, modes of a scale, harmonizing melodies, and so much more.

It helped me so much, that I started playing on the worship team over a year ago.  I wouldn't have been able to have done it w/o the book.  Our worship team plays by chord charts and there's been a lot of times our old and our new worship leader has changed keys on us and I was able to play it in a different key.  And at times, they'd go into a song that I didn't have the chords to.  I was able to figure out the chords by what bass notes the lead key player was playing or by ear.

There's a couple of great discussions about the book yesterday in the forum on Jermaine's site, which I went into more detail about what you'll learn from it as well as how it helped me.  Check it out:
http://zone.hearandplay.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=17986#17986
http://zone.hearandplay.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=18000#18000

Again, like I said, it's definitely THE BEST!!!!!  It's so good, Jermaine's company, Hear And Play, even offers a lifetime money back guarantee on it.  I've looked at many other piano sites in the last couple of yrs and I don't know anyone else that does that or even offers courses that can compare to it.  It's definitely the most important (and most worn) piano book in my piano library.  You can find the book at: www.playpianosecrets.com

Also, some other great books that you may want to supplement it w/ are:

The Chord Wheel: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0634021427?tag=heaandplazont-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0634021427&adid=1EARXFJQHRQMF5WFM3W7&

The Complete Book Of Scales, Chords, And Arpeggios: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0739003682?ie=UTF8&tag=heaandplazont-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0739003682

Music Theory Made Easy (book and audio CD, I got mine at Barnes And Noble but Books-A-Million has it too): http://www.davidharp.com/non_har_musicbooks.html

The Older Beginner Piano Course (if you want to teach traditional lessons/sight reading, what I learned from in HS): http://www.kjos.com/sub_section.php?division=5&series=28

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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2007, 04:18:43 PM »
I was use the Jermaine Griggs " Hear and Play" 300 page book. Lots of good stuff in there for new piano players.

I just ordered this book. I taught 1 of 3 piano classes last month. I'll teach class 2 this month and class 3 in December. 

Next time I teach a piano class, I want to spread it over at least 10 classes and use this book as a guide.

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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2007, 08:14:17 PM »
So i've seriously considering giving out piano lessons and stuff to those who may want them.  I'm just trying to figure out how where to start.  I even have a couple of people who came to me asking if I could teach them. 



Anybody have any suggestions on how exactly i get started on this??  like what kind of books i should use?  etc.??


 

     Hey jgause2!

     First of all, God bless you for having the desire to teach others.  Before giving the classes, there are a number of things to consider.  Here are some of them ...

1.  What method of playing will you be teaching?  Will it be playing by chords or chord charts, sight reading,
     by ear, or a combination of methods?

2.  Where will you hold the class, and how many students will be in it?

3.  How long will each session run, and how many weeks will the class be scheduled for?

4.  Will there be a charge for the class, for materials or other costs?

5.  Will students be allowed to make up a missed class?

6.  Do the students have to bring a keyboard to class?

7.  Are the people who are signing up for the class really serious about learning to play?

     These are just some things you might consider while preparing to give lessons. 

     The following are some of the things I covered in the class I gave a couple of years ago:

1.  Class introduction, everyone in the class gets to meet each other.

2.  Class objectives ... What each student should be able to achieve by the end of the classes.

3.  Rules and expectations ...  What is expected of each student, (bringing in the necessary materials, being     
     prompt etc.).

4.  Introduction to the keyboard ... Start at the basics of learning to identify each note.

5.  Forming of Major chords and how to apply them.

6.  Forming of Minor and Diminished chords and how to apply them.

7.  Forming of Augmented chords and how and when to use them.

8.  Forming of Sevenths, Major, Minor and Diminished Sevenths, and where to apply them.

9.  Scales and 12 Major Keys.

10.  Chord inversions

11.  Circle of Fourths, and Circle of Fifths.

12.  Numeric chart and number system.

13.  Chord Symbols

14.  Chromatic scales, Chromatic chord scales.

15.  Left hand techniques and practices.

16.  Modulation and Key changes

17.  A list of songs with chords for the students to learn and practice.


I know it's a lot, but I hope it helps you set up a class that will successfully raise up other musicians to play for the Lord.  :)
                                               God bless,   BroAllan


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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2007, 08:48:11 AM »
     Hey jgause2!

     First of all, God bless you for having the desire to teach others.  Before giving the classes, there are a number of things to consider.  Here are some of them ...

1.  What method of playing will you be teaching?  Will it be playing by chords or chord charts, sight reading,
     by ear, or a combination of methods?

2.  Where will you hold the class, and how many students will be in it?

3.  How long will each session run, and how many weeks will the class be scheduled for?

4.  Will there be a charge for the class, for materials or other costs?

5.  Will students be allowed to make up a missed class?

6.  Do the students have to bring a keyboard to class?

7.  Are the people who are signing up for the class really serious about learning to play?

     These are just some things you might consider while preparing to give lessons. 



1.  I was planning on teaching a combination of those methods. (Sight reading, ear training, etc.)

2.  The sessions would be 1-on-1 sessions, just me and the student.  I'm starting with students at my church.   So the church is one option for having practice.  I also have a piano at my house, so my house is another option.  The Music building at the University I attend is also an option, because it's basically around the same area.

3.  Sessions would could run from 30 min - 1 hour, depending on their preference.  I was looking at these piano books I had used when i was little (Alfred's Basic Piano Library), and there are different levels that students can go (Level 1 - Level 6 or 7).  So I would have a session once a week, for how ever long the student desires to be taught.

4.  I guess this depends.  When I took piano lessons, there were four books that I used every time i went to a new level, and each book was about $5 per book.  Plus we were paying $8 an hour.  I might do something like that.  Where they pay for the books, or I may give them a discount off their books, and then charge probably $5 an hour or something like that.

5.  Students will be able to make up a missed session. 

6.  Students would not be required to bring a keyboard or anything to class, seeing that I have a keyboard at my house, and at the church.  A keyboard or something would be needed if they plan on taking lessons, so that they can practice at home, so that may be an issue for those with money problems.

7.  Yes!



         The following are some of the things I covered in the class I gave a couple of years ago:

1.  Class introduction, everyone in the class gets to meet each other.

2.  Class objectives ... What each student should be able to achieve by the end of the classes.

3.  Rules and expectations ...  What is expected of each student, (bringing in the necessary materials, being     
     prompt etc.).

4.  Introduction to the keyboard ... Start at the basics of learning to identify each note.

5.  Forming of Major chords and how to apply them.

6.  Forming of Minor and Diminished chords and how to apply them.

7.  Forming of Augmented chords and how and when to use them.

8.  Forming of Sevenths, Major, Minor and Diminished Sevenths, and where to apply them.

9.  Scales and 12 Major Keys.

10.  Chord inversions

11.  Circle of Fourths, and Circle of Fifths.

12.  Numeric chart and number system.

13.  Chord Symbols

14.  Chromatic scales, Chromatic chord scales.

15.  Left hand techniques and practices.

16.  Modulation and Key changes

17.  A list of songs with chords for the students to learn and practice.


I know it's a lot, but I hope it helps you set up a class that will successfully raise up other musicians to play for the Lord.  :)
                                               God bless,   BroAllan



I like this list, and will definitely be putting these to consideration.  Thanks for the support.
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2007, 10:59:27 AM »

1.  I was planning on teaching a combination of those methods. (Sight reading, ear training, etc.)

2.  The sessions would be 1-on-1 sessions, just me and the student.  I'm starting with students at my church.   So the church is one option for having practice.  I also have a piano at my house, so my house is another option.  The Music building at the University I attend is also an option, because it's basically around the same area.

3.  Sessions would could run from 30 min - 1 hour, depending on their preference.  I was looking at these piano books I had used when i was little (Alfred's Basic Piano Library), and there are different levels that students can go (Level 1 - Level 6 or 7).  So I would have a session once a week, for how ever long the student desires to be taught.

4.  I guess this depends.  When I took piano lessons, there were four books that I used every time i went to a new level, and each book was about $5 per book.  Plus we were paying $8 an hour.  I might do something like that.  Where they pay for the books, or I may give them a discount off their books, and then charge probably $5 an hour or something like that.

5.  Students will be able to make up a missed session. 

6.  Students would not be required to bring a keyboard or anything to class, seeing that I have a keyboard at my house, and at the church.  A keyboard or something would be needed if they plan on taking lessons, so that they can practice at home, so that may be an issue for those with money problems.

7.  Yes!





I like this list, and will definitely be putting these to consideration.  Thanks for the support.



What, five dollars an hour?  WOW!!  I teach lessons at 30 dollars an hour which is a great price, BUT make sure that you are ready to give lessons and answer ANY questions that might arise. God bless, Bishop Cole
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2007, 11:22:28 AM »


What, five dollars an hour?  WOW!!  I teach lessons at 30 dollars an hour which is a great price, BUT make sure that you are ready to give lessons and answer ANY questions that might arise. God bless, Bishop Cole

$5 is VERY CHEAP!!!

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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2007, 12:20:07 PM »
thats just for like the first 1 or 2 students that i will be teaching....just so i can get the feel for how things will go.....please believe that that price may go up. cass round hurr ain't cheap ....u kno ;D ;)
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2007, 12:39:34 PM »
$5 is VERY CHEAP!!!

You can barely buy a Happy Meal for $5.  You should start with at least 10.  You will find out that alot of people want to learn the piano, but don't want t put in the time to learn.  So you do not want to get stuck with students that dont want to go anywhere but is still waisting your time because they don't mind paying $5.
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2007, 12:47:15 PM »
I agree with that---$5.00 is tooooooooo cheap!! I plan to teach in about 5 years when I retire.  I plan to teach the basic---from beginners to level two maybe---using TheoryBuilder---and regular/traditional piano lessons.  They will graduate from me to another co-worker of mind (who is a certified music teacher).  But I'm thinking about $12-15.00 @ 1/2 hour and $25-30.00 for an hour.

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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2007, 02:10:07 PM »
$5 is VERY CHEAP!!!


Opps!  I was starting to type my message and I must have hit the wrong button and it went ahead and posted it.  I wasn't finished.

$5 is too cheap.  You should charge at least $10-15 a lesson.  I know around here lessons are around $15-$30/wk for 1/2 hr.  I've know I've heard that in some areas (w/ very prominent piano teachers) lessons can be up to $50/lesson.

I've never paid for formal lessons, I mostly taught myself.  When I was a kid, I taught myself to play keyboards for several yrs.  I started out w/ a Casio ROM keyboard and alphabet stickers.  I also had ROM cartridges and songbooks that came w/ the cartridges.  The songbooks are similiar to the Hal Leonard EZ Play Today Series, which is in lead sheet format.  It just has the melody line (treble clef), and letters on the notes.  By the time I got to high school, I already knew how to play w/ my RH but not the left, so I went ahead and took a beginner piano class in school (which was FREE).  We used book 1 of the Bastien Older Beginner Course.  I wanted to take a 2nd yr, but my school was so small and there wasn't enough students interested to take a 2nd yr class, so I worked on the 2nd book on my own.  I became very good at reading easy piano music or sheet music to a song that I know.

I played for several yrs but got away from it.  3 yrs ago, I got back into playing.  I have an aunt (her son, my cousin, is a Pastor of a small country church), that asked me over 3 yrs ago if I was still playing.  I told her no.  She said that my cousin (another cousin, her niece), who took several yrs of lessons and had played for her church, wasn't playing anymore.  She said that she really believed that I had my late granny's gift (anointing) to play the piano (She played many yrs for her church but I never got to hear her play, she had to give it up when she got old).  That stuck w/ me and the Lord kept reminding of it.  I thought about it but I thought I'd never get to the level I wanted (ie be able to play advanced stuff like shouting music and preacher chords).

It was in Nov. of that yr that I was in my room one day and I noticed my old keyboard in a corner.  I forgot that I had one w/ full size keys.  I did have a piano too, but I had too much stuff to get to it, which is one reason I got away from it, plus not being home much during the day, and thinking I'd never get past playing easy piano stuff.  I decided to get my keyboard out and go thru my old piano books and practice and learn some songs for Christmas.  To my surprise, I was able to play a lot of the songs the first time thru, esp. the very easy piano sheet music.

After the holidays, I ran into someone and I told them I was trying to learn to play the piano again.  They said it's easy, you just learn your chords, I thought "yeah right, playing by chords is just for guitar players".  I also went to a concert of a man I knew yrs ago that was one of the best piano players in my area.  He could play Great Balls Of Fire as good as Jerry Lee Lewis.  I found out that he doesn't play by sheet music but completely by ear.  He taught himself to play.  I also saw a commercial on TV for an ISP, and they showed someone looking up guitar lessons on the internet.  I decided to look online to see if I could find some sheetmusic/books that could teach me how to play gospel music (ie upbeat praise and shouting music).  I found Jermaine's site and LGM.  To my surprise, you can teach yourself to play by ear and to improvise.  I learned a lot from Jermaine's free lessons and newsletters and after a few months was able to get the book.  Like I said, it's helped me more than anything.  It helped me to learn all my chords and music theory (even a lot of stuff I didn't learn in choir class).  After that, I knew I had to get all his other products as well, which are the only lessons I've ever had to pay for, which by the hr are a whole lot cheaper than a teacher.

Also, right after I found his site, I also bought a couple of worship fake books and a chord book and was able to put into practice what I was learning from Jermaine, harmonizing melodies w/ chords in RH and bass notes in the LH.  That helped me a lot too.  I got a really good chord book called "Progressive Keyboard Chords".  It comes w/ a CD and it gives you all kinds of chords, sample chord progressions, the Circle Of Fifths, chord formulas, and some music theory.  I used that book a lot when I first started (esp before I got Jermaine's book) but after I got Jermaine's book, I was able to get a complete understanding of all the music theory I needed.  I was able to quickly "know" ALL my basic chords by several shortcuts (ie numbers and intervals) and to play songs in different keys.

Also, joining the praise team over a yr ago, has helped me more than anything to put into practice what I've learned from Jermaine.  I knew how to play by fakebooks but not the first thing about playing by chord charts.  My leader (lead keys) really didn't give me any pointers, except to play piano on the fast songs and to hold down strings or piano/strings w/ the chords on the slow songs.  On the fast songs, I just played the chords to the rhythm he's playing them to and use my inversions to make it easier to play progressions.  I realized that we're just playing chords to the rhythm and it sounded good as a band.  Being on a modern/contemporary worship team, I found it easier to play by chords, even easier than playing by fake books, plus learning the songs a lot faster (even by memory).

Now, I realise that anyone can learn and it's true, if you know your chords, you can play.  If you know your chords and music theory you can learn.  So, if I was teaching lessons, I'd make sure that students learn their music theory and chords, esp. the building blocks, how you progress from notes to scales, scales to forming chords, and to chord progresions.  Also make sure they learn the number system and the Circle of Fifths.

Also, check out this excellent chart on SisterT's site.  I copied it into a Word doc (to fit it on one pg) and I have it in the very front page of my binder I use for church:
http://www.earnestandroline.com/Music/Lessons/scalesfingering.html

Also, this great Circle Of Fifths chart.  I found it on photobucket, but it's the same as the one in one of my piano books (I think the Progressive Keyboard Chords book):
http://zone.hearandplay.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3354

Sorry to be so long.  That's how I learned.  Maybe my testimony can help you decide how to teach others to learn.

God bless! :)
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2007, 02:12:26 PM »
That was a long post. :)
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2007, 02:21:35 PM »
That was a long post. :)

Sorry! :( I didn't mean to make it so long.  I guess I have a bad habit of going into details.  I just wanted to share how I learned.  Maybe it can give teachers some great ideas on how to teach their students.

God bless! :)
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2007, 04:16:57 PM »
If the man wants to charge $5 an hour, that is perfectly alright.  Jgause2, you do whatever u feel is right for you.
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Re: Giving Piano Lessons
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2007, 05:15:47 PM »
If the man wants to charge $5 an hour, that is perfectly alright.  Jgause2, you do whatever u feel is right for you.


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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2007, 06:04:47 PM »
Give lessons online so I can participate!! ;)
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