Speaking in Tounges

[Noelle1977]

I apologize, I never meant to be rude, it actually wasn't even directed to you...someone responded to something I posted by, quoting your post.  You and I were in agreeance on the topic from the begining.  I never meant to offend you I was simply replying to whoever re-posted your message in response to me, and all I meant was when you're reading the Bible it's easy to take a verse and get one meaning out of it (I've done it before too)but when you read the preceeding verses and the verses that follow you get a totally different meaning.  So you have to study The Word in it's entirety.  I apologize again if I offended you, it was never my intention.  Forgive me.


Be Blessed

[SisterT]

I apologize, I never meant to be rude, it actually wasn't even directed to you... Forgive me.

Since I was the only person who stated "I was standing one the Word", one would conclude your statement was directed to me, however, since you have stated otherwise, all is forgiven.

[Noelle1977]

Well I feel like this topic has been exhausted, in the end everyone will have their own opinions, so the last thing I'll say on it is this, I do believe that speaking in tounges is a spiritual gift from God that is for that person and God only. So if God gave me a gift that was only meant to be between he and I, in my opinion it makes sense that I would utilize that gift when I was in His and only His presence.

Be Blessed :lol:

[MusiqB77]

Earlier this semester, I was at a bible study on my campus and the topic of speaking in tongues came up and was discussed for about four of our bible studies. It is truly a difficult subject matter to fully understand, but I'm going to share what I recieved from my personal study of the Word of God. I believe that some people can have the gift of speaking in tongues, but it's hard for me to believe that one has to speak in tongues as evidence to show his or her salvation and indwelling of the Holy Spirit. My first point is, who are we trying to prove or show the evidence to because surly we don't have to prove it to another man. He's not going to get us into heaven. If we are trying to prove it to ourselves, then we need to rethink whether we truly excepted Jesus as our Lord and Savior. And God knows he saved us because it was his doing. That would be like me giving someone a ball, and then asking them if they have it right after I gave it to them. I know I gave it to them so I know they have it. Plus,i f that was the case that we had to speak in tongues to show our salvation and indwelling of the Holy Spirit, then I feel Jesus would have added that in the package when he told Nicodemus the plan of salvation in John 3 because that would be really improtant. THAT COULD STOP YOU FROM SPENDING ETERNITY WITH THE FATHER!!

3:3 "Verily, Verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

3:15 "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."



3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave HIs only begotten son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE."

It didn't mention anything about speaking in tongues after you were born of the water and believed in Jesus.

Lastly, I don't have the gift of speaking in tongues, but I bear fruits of the Spirit: love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance.  (Read Galatians 5:22-23). If I have to speak in tongues to show that I have the Holy Spirit how am I bearing fruits of the Spirit. That would be like and oak tree growing apples. IT"S NOT POSSIBLE! Same thing in the spirit. If you do not have the Holy Spirit living in you, it's impossible for you to bear fruits of the spirit. So I know I have the Holy Spirit in me, and yet, I have never spoken in tongues. Like I said, I do believe that people can have the gift of speaking in tongues, I just don't believe that everybody has to do it as evidence of their salvation and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. There has also been incidents in the Bible of people receiving the Holy Spirit and not speaking in togues.

John was “filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s
womb” (Luke 1:15), but he never spoke in tongues. “Elisabeth was filled
with the Holy Ghost” (Luke 1:41). There is no account of her speaking
in tongues. “Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost” (Luke 1:67).
There is no account of him speaking in tongues. It was said of Barnabas
in Acts 11:22-24, “For he was a good man, and full of the Holy Ghost
and faith: and much people were added unto the Lord.” There is no
mention of him speaking in tongues. Stephen, Philip, Prochorus,
Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas and Nicolas, the first deacons, were full of
the Holy Ghost according to Acts 6:5, but there is no mention of them
speaking in tongues. There are other evidences of being filled with the
Spirit. We read in Ephesians 4:18 that singing spiritual songs was a
sign of being filled with the Sprit. Acts 4:31 declares that speaking
the Word of God with boldness is evidence of being filled with the
Spirit. It is a mistake to believe that speaking in tongues is the sign
of receiving the filling of the Holy Spirit.


P.S. I'm not a Bible scholar, I'm just sharing what I know.

Everyone be blessed!!!

[smoove_td]

Romans 10:9,10 says: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
I'm no bible scholar but what this text is saying is that all you have to do is confess with your mouth that Jesus is risen and that he is your peosonal Saviour then you are saved

I'm sorry, I know this discussion is over but I had to do this.  I always feel compelled to speak the truth, If someone already spoke this I apologize but I have to write as I read the posts.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Lets read this whole passage.  Lots of people like to cut out those two scriptures to say that's what you have to do, but is it really?  

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Already, this disproves that because you must believe in the name to call on it, and if you believe you must be baptized.

I won't go anymore.

[smoove_td]

1Corinthians Chapter 14 it deals specifically with that topic.  A "tounge" is just a lanuage, Engligh is a tounge, Spanish is a "tounge" "Portugeese" is a tounge.  

I am not going to give my opinion on the subject, however, I am going to stand on the Word of God.

Lets look at I Corinthians 14:
 "For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speakth not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandth him..."

Paul says an "unknown tongue" which "no man understand". Do not confuse this with another language. Saying that a tongue, implied from I Corn. 14, is just another language is in error. This is a heavenly language, in which God has blessed some with the gift of interpretation to understand (I Corn 14:27).

In Acts 2:1-13, the Day of Pentecost, the tongue mentioned in these verses was indeed other languages, for in verses 7-8, the multitude was amazed because they heard the disciples supernaturally speaking in their own native language. Note, they understood the disciples, not because they (the crowd) had the gift of interpretation, but becasue it was their native language.

For Lisa, and others who don't understand the turning on and off of the gift....the person with the gift of speaking in tongues has control of their gift, it is not a spiritual impulse. That is why Paul is telling the church at Corinth to keep silence in the church if an interpreter is not present (I Corn. 14:28)

Now, I do not understand how churches today are not heeding to the Word of God. How a church can allow the gift of tongues to be abused during a worship service is beyond my understanding. The Word of God has no exceptions to the rule.

My husband has the gift of speaking in tongues. He exercises his gift during his prayer time. I don't have the gift. He is not more saved than me!!

I wanted to say something about what you were saying.  Agree or disagree.  In 1 Corinthians 14 it speaking of the same tongues as in Acts 2.  The reason why it is unknown is because it is in a congregation in which everyone speaks the same language.  In which most churches do.  What Paul is saying is that it would not profit the church for you, when you should preaching or teaching, to speak in tongues when that is only edifying you.

Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

Another scripture

Mark 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

In Acts 2 the only difference was that these were people from all over.  People that brought to Jerusalem during the passover to witness that God was pouring out his spirit on the earth, just like the scripture says.

The tongues that are for interpretation are divers tongues.  Which means different kinds of tongues.

1 Corinthians 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

These tongues are not to be confused with the unknown tongues.  I'm sleepy now.  I'll finish later