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Chord Families
« on: May 27, 2003, 07:33:22 AM »
Just a little something to help remember your major chords.

When playing the Chord families below, notice that your hand form does not change. "1, 3, 5 fingers" . When you play the Independent families you will still use 1, 3, 5 fingers, but your hand form will change a little.

Chord Families
C , F , G
C Major - C E G  /   F Major - F A C,  /  G Major - G B D

C#, Eb, Ab
C# Major - C# F Ab /  Eb Major - Eb G Bb  / Ab Major - Ab C Eb

D, E, A
D Major - D F# A  / E Major - E Ab B / A Major - A C# E

Independent Chord families

F#, Bb, B
F# Major - F# Bb C#  / Bb Major - Bb D F  / B Major - B - Eb - F#

Play this on your Keyboard and you will see how easy it is to remember your major chords. I pray that this will Bless someone.

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2003, 10:18:59 AM »
Thank you for your contribution Worship.

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Chord Families
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2003, 05:49:17 PM »
No problem. Just glad I can help.

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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2008, 07:28:35 PM »
just some food for the music soul :)
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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2008, 07:35:30 PM »
What is the Independent Chord families?

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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2008, 07:58:30 PM »
What is the Independent Chord families?



I don't think I know..
& I would dispute the way some scales have been grouped here..but that's just me & how I feel the keys are closely related to each other in terms of feel..

you might recall a thread where I grouped the major scales just 2 or 3 days ago..

hopefully rspindy or another theory guru will enlighten us on the so called "independent chord families".
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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 04:18:30 AM »
From what I understand, chord families are just another name for scale degree chords.  When u are in a specific key, any chord that can be built off each scale degree will be a part of that key's chord family.  Here are some links that I've done on this subject, I just never used the term "chord family", LOL:

Explaining Progressions part 2:  http://forums.learngospelmusic.com/index.php/topic,31163.0.html

Explaining Progressions part 3:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,33036.0.html

Scale Degree Chords:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,53951.0.html

Scale Degree Chords Part 2:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,53958.0.html

Scale Degree Chords Chart/Practice (3-note chords): http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,54353.0.html

If anyone still has questions bout this, just ask.  I'm like u musalio, I'm wating on rspindy to come through, LOL.

As far as independent chord families, I have never heard of that term b4 and I seriously doubt that it even exists.
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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 02:52:53 PM »
From what I understand, chord families are just another name for scale degree chords.  When u are in a specific key, any chord that can be built off each scale degree will be a part of that key's chord family.  Here are some links that I've done on this subject, I just never used the term "chord family", LOL:

Explaining Progressions part 2:  http://forums.learngospelmusic.com/index.php/topic,31163.0.html

Explaining Progressions part 3:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,33036.0.html

Scale Degree Chords:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,53951.0.html

Scale Degree Chords Part 2:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,53958.0.html

Scale Degree Chords Chart/Practice (3-note chords): http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,54353.0.html

If anyone still has questions bout this, just ask.  I'm like u musalio, I'm wating on rspindy to come through, LOL.

As far as independent chord families, I have never heard of that term b4 and I seriously doubt that it even exists.


Yes, chord families make sense...but independent ?/? ::) ::) *nodding head*
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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2008, 12:03:49 PM »
What Worship appears to be referring to is the actual physical distance between keys on the keyboard.

The group one family contain all white keys (C, G, F).  If you were to measure the distances between the 1 - 3 and the 3 - 5, (center to center) you will find that the measurement is the same (although the musical distance is Maj 3 and min 3.  In fact all of the chords that contain all white keys are the same.  Thus you maintain the same hand shape for Dm, Em, Am, and B dim!

The second group has a black key in the middle (D, E, A).  If you were to measure that, you would find that the 1 - 3 is physically larger than the 3 - 5.  Also the 1 - 3 of each of these is physically larger than the 1 - 3 of the first group and the 3 - 5 is physically smaller than the 3 - 5 of the first group.

In this case, the minor chords with a black in the middle are NOT the same.  Cm, Fm, Gm will not measure the same as D, E, A!

The same occurs in the third group (Db/C#, Eb, Ab).  Since both Db/C#, and Ab still retain a white key in their minor version, there will also be a difference in physical distance.  The distances are basically the same as the Black White Black group, but they fell different, particularly in relation to the thumb.

The "independent" are simply the chords with hand shapes that are unique to them.  This includes Bb, B, Gb.  Gb is physically the same measurements as the white key bunch, but will feel different.  Also Ebm is physically the same as Gb.

This hand shape idea has to do with technic practice and is not necessarily meant to relate the chords by theory.

One way to practice your chords as arpeggios and such is to practice by group.  Practice the C, F, G, Dm, Em, Am, B dim arpeggios in one session.  Each one will support your learning on the others.  The only difference will be their location on the keyboard in relation to where you sit.

Then work on other groups similarly.

After you have them by groups, then start mixing them up.  You might try a group I followed by a group II (C D, F E, G A) etc. to help internalize the minute adjustments necessary between different hand shapes.

I will caution that, particularly with those that involve black keys, to begin by making sure that your finger is placed absolutely in the middle of the key.  Get used to that feeling and you will be less likely to slip off or accidentally hit two keys.

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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2008, 01:13:57 PM »
What Worship appears to be referring to is the actual physical distance between keys on the keyboard.

The group one family contain all white keys (C, G, F).  If you were to measure the distances between the 1 - 3 and the 3 - 5, (center to center) you will find that the measurement is the same (although the musical distance is Maj 3 and min 3.  In fact all of the chords that contain all white keys are the same.  Thus you maintain the same hand shape for Dm, Em, Am, and B dim!

The second group has a black key in the middle (D, E, A).  If you were to measure that, you would find that the 1 - 3 is physically larger than the 3 - 5.  Also the 1 - 3 of each of these is physically larger than the 1 - 3 of the first group and the 3 - 5 is physically smaller than the 3 - 5 of the first group.

In this case, the minor chords with a black in the middle are NOT the same.  Cm, Fm, Gm will not measure the same as D, E, A!

The same occurs in the third group (Db/C#, Eb, Ab).  Since both Db/C#, and Ab still retain a white key in their minor version, there will also be a difference in physical distance.  The distances are basically the same as the Black White Black group, but they fell different, particularly in relation to the thumb.

The "independent" are simply the chords with hand shapes that are unique to them.  This includes Bb, B, Gb.  Gb is physically the same measurements as the white key bunch, but will feel different.  Also Ebm is physically the same as Gb.

This hand shape idea has to do with technic practice and is not necessarily meant to relate the chords by theory.

One way to practice your chords as arpeggios and such is to practice by group.  Practice the C, F, G, Dm, Em, Am, B dim arpeggios in one session.  Each one will support your learning on the others.  The only difference will be their location on the keyboard in relation to where you sit.

Then work on other groups similarly.

After you have them by groups, then start mixing them up.  You might try a group I followed by a group II (C D, F E, G A) etc. to help internalize the minute adjustments necessary between different hand shapes.

I will caution that, particularly with those that involve black keys, to begin by making sure that your finger is placed absolutely in the middle of the key.  Get used to that feeling and you will be less likely to slip off or accidentally hit two keys.
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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2008, 02:11:34 PM »
wOW!!! :o

Rspindy, U'r a true genious in your game...

U'r reminding me of something I came across last year when I was still learning my basic chords:




All this is from here

So big apologies to Worship (if he's still around :-\

You were spot on bro. ;)
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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2008, 02:55:19 PM »
Wow! 
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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2008, 03:18:27 PM »
What Worship appears to be referring to is the actual physical distance between keys on the keyboard.

WOW, his post actually makes sense now (after bout 4 years), LOL!!!
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Re: Chord Families
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2008, 03:19:01 PM »
Wow! 

Now this is the theory I wouldn't mind the cats to evade, but not the bare essentials that some don't even want to hear of!! :)

This stuff is really fascinating though  :o:)
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