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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2006, 12:24:29 PM »
I know.  I guess I'm that man in the bible from a previous post.  I'm torn.

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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2006, 12:50:17 PM »
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I know.  I guess I'm that man in the bible from a previous post.  I'm torn.


You probably got Gods sign along time ago but because of family ties you ignored it much like I did when I was at my grandfather's church.  My situation wasn't as bad as yours mind you, but still....you have to grow.  

If that isn't happening for you then it is time to bounce.

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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2006, 12:58:23 PM »
I know it's time to bounce....but I can't leave my folks!

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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2006, 01:05:14 PM »
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I know it's time to bounce....but I can't leave my folks!


There is the problem...it is not God...it is you.  Have you ever considered that God cannot do what He needs to do in that church because you are in the way.  And, maybe He can't do what He is supposed to do in your life because you are in the way.

You are a playwrite.  God could increase your ministry 20 fold if you would step out on Him.

My Pastor always says that if you give it up...you can have it all.

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2006, 01:07:28 PM »
OUCH!

Maybe it is time for me to walk on the water, but I'm scared to take one foot out the boat!

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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2006, 01:09:23 PM »
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I know it's time to bounce....but I can't leave my folks!


There is the problem...it is not God...it is you.  Have you ever considered that God cannot do what He needs to do in that church because you are in the way.  And, maybe He can't do what He is supposed to do in your life because you are in the way.

You are a playwrite.  God could increase your ministry 20 fold if you would step out on Him.

My Pastor always says that if you give it up...you can have it all.



Amen, JManley, Amen!!!
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2006, 01:22:23 PM »
Well if there's any consolation.....I didn't leave mama's house until I was 28 and a half...and even then it was to go live in sin which I'm still paying for now!

You gotta give me time!

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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2006, 01:27:14 PM »
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Well if there's any consolation.....I didn't leave mama's house until I was 28 and a half...and even then it was to go live in sin which I'm still paying for now!

You gotta give me time!


So, that's how you speak to God, "You gotta give me time!"  :(


Now, while I'm not saying that any one of us is God, God could be working through us to give you an avenue by which you can talk to him, really talk to him, and do what He's telling you to do.

And, move when HE says move.  :D
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2006, 01:28:45 PM »
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OUCH!

Maybe it is time for me to walk on the water, but I'm scared to take one foot out the boat!


Don't step out the boat... LEAP/JUMP/SUMMERSAULT & Hydroplane out the Mugg... ROTFLMBO!!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Herman, I told you months ago that you needed to leave... And I'm quite sure that a lot of other people told you the same.. as others are doing so now... I suggest after your schedule is taken care of... Make plans to Make Moves...

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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2006, 06:08:17 PM »
Okay, Mr Playwright . . . here are a couple of men that I love to study and they are always overlooked or not really researched, so we miss out big time:

One is Jephtha from the Book of Judges. He was what we would call today a gang-banger . . . an illegitimate son who, because of his birth, couldn't inherit with the other sons.

But he had great leadership skills, and became a gang-banger. GOD saved him and used those skills to deleiver Israel.

Here is the catch. Jephtha never really got over his insecurities, so he thought he had to make a vow and promise the first thing that came out of his house. GOD didn't require it, Jephtha did because he wanted to make sure GOD was with him. But GOD WAS with him, his vow was rash. Had Jephtha just been delivered from his insecurities, he would have never made the vow!

Bring some background to that story, and you have a great play that could touch many people, young and old alike!

The other is Gideon, also from the Book of Judges. Gideon is always called a coward, but actually that is not at all what his problem was. The enemies were terrorists (also a very contemporary issue) and the people were weak.

Portray Gideon as a young leader who has to battle insecurities, fears, and people who say that they will go with him but leave the minute he calls the fearful to go home.

So, I KNOW you could make these characters three dimensional and just go to town with the play, Bro Peachy!

Also, I like Boaz. An old man, saved and rich, but kind of accepting the fact that true love wouldn't be his so he contents himself as a successful saved businessman. Then, young beautiful Ruth comes into his life. Think Boaz might have had some internal re-adjusting to do to accept the blessing of a young beautiful wife, as old as Boaz was?

That give you any ideas? Let me know what you think!
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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2006, 06:22:50 PM »
Man peach, you gotta give bboy some recognition on your finished product, that was some good stuff!  The Jepthah story is a sad tale, though.  I guess it's a warning to us about being rash with our vows (wow, i think i just spoke a word to myself), but tragic nonetheless.

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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2006, 06:42:18 PM »
When talking about young leaders I think Joshua and Caleb would be interesting choices. Iinteresting choices in general would be Enoch an Elijah, what a life they had to have lived so that God did not let them see death but took them from where they were. Now thats something to aim at.

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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2006, 07:10:23 PM »
Peach, it looks like you have material to do two productions. Need a lead?  :wink:
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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2006, 11:34:07 PM »
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What about Stephen (who was stoned)



Very humble as far as what I've read, speaking softly and ripping open the hearts of vipers, and it would be nice to see Saul transformed to Paul as he was the key witness in Stephens' death...peace

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« Reply #34 on: January 18, 2006, 11:45:35 PM »
God answers prayer!  I asked him to please let Bboy read this, but I really need Bboy's opinion on my main question.

Am I insulting the Holy Spirit by not portraying Jesus as one of the "Men of the Bible"?  I say that because you know at the end everyone is expecting him to leave a tomb empty, rise from a cross, feed a multitude or do something.

We have a church full of "do-nothing" men and Pastor has started a new Men's Ministry and wants our men to be "Men After God's Own Heart"....you feel me?

As each man portrays a role, hopefully he will learn something about the character he is portraying that will help him (and those who attend) to overcome their spiritual obstacles and eventually become a "man after God's own heart"....men of strength and valor who don't mind working in church...or going door to door (instead of allowing me and three women to go every month)....men who don't sit around and ask "well whose turn was it to cut the grass....oh well, it'll get cut someday".  I want the men of our church and community to witness first-hand how God transformed the lives of these men and used their lives for His glory.  I want them to see men in the Bible who trusted God even when the situations did not look favorable (I can hear Dianne singing "how you gonna pay your rent 8O ), but God delivered and changed them for the better.  I can hear one of the men talking about the way God changed him (Saul/Paul) and sending the saints under the pews with "I Know I've Been Changed".

I don't want people to leave there saying "Herman really put that thing together" (well, they can say that if they want to)...but I want men to leave there saying...."oh my God something in my life has got to change quickly and pleasing God has got to become my #1 priority starting now!

But if Jesus is not a character (although he will be mentioned through its entirety I'm sure), will that offend people to the point of not being able to receive the message.....making the whole effort be in vain?

I'm really stumped on that element.

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« Reply #35 on: January 18, 2006, 11:47:16 PM »
Trust me....if it turns out to be a success, I'm subject to fly Bboy in to play the part of David "the star of the show"...a man after God's own heart!

And in my "thank-you's" he will get his props IF HE AIN'T LISTED AS THE CO-WRITER!  Don't play!

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« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2006, 12:09:26 AM »
Hmm. The Bible says that the volume of the Book is written of Jesus, so you really can't do any of the men in the Bible unless you glorify Jesus and Jesus' life-changing power.

I don't think it would be disrespectful, because you are not drawing attention to the man . . . you are drawing attention to GOD Who changes men. It isn't like you are doing this the way Hollywood does it . . . they do it by not being faithful to Scripture and putting out a product that everyone will like. You want to wirte a product that glorifies GOD and calls people to read the Bible for themselves.

But what would settle it your heart is if you wrote the rough draft and let your spiritual leadership read it. Just my 2 cents . . .

Be Blessed  :D
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« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2006, 12:16:30 AM »
My grandfather can preach a message on prosperity or on tithing, but before he ends that message Jesus is going to that cross...even if it does not pertain to the subject matter.

By ROUTINE, we have to include Jesus.  He has a slogan....
JESUS...nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else!  It's on our t-shirts, worship bulletins, and many times he has the congregation repeat it after him.

He says that while other people preach that you have to speak in tongue...and you have to have this or have to do that, all you really need is Jesus....nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else.

Because of the things he says and my 'funeral parlor' (I mean church body) believe.....that element would have to be present.

But if I could make them get caught up on the POWER of Jesus as they are on the PERSON of Jesus.....it could have a life-changing effect.

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« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2006, 08:31:46 AM »
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My grandfather can preach a message on prosperity or on tithing, but before he ends that message Jesus is going to that cross...even if it does not pertain to the subject matter.

By ROUTINE, we have to include Jesus.  He has a slogan....
JESUS...nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else!  It's on our t-shirts, worship bulletins, and many times he has the congregation repeat it after him.

He says that while other people preach that you have to speak in tongue...and you have to have this or have to do that, all you really need is Jesus....nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else.

Because of the things he says and my 'funeral parlor' (I mean church body) believe.....that element would have to be present.

But if I could make them get caught up on the POWER of Jesus as they are on the PERSON of Jesus.....it could have a life-changing effect.


By virtue of what you're saying, it may be on your heart (or in your spirit) not to include Jesus (the physical appearance thereof, mind you :wink: ), but to elude to Him. As someone (I believe it was BBoy) stated, Jesus is God; so since Jesus wasn't around (born) during the time of David, and other men who have been mentioned as potential characters for this play, you could deal with the men themselves and show how the POWER of God can heal, deliver and change men and bring out the king inside of them.

And, of course, you'd have to do the songs, "Changed" (Tremaine Hawkins) and "King inside of me" and "Take my Life" (Donnie McClurkin and Micah Stampley from the "He-motions" CD)

Just my thoughts.
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« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2006, 08:48:17 AM »
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As someone (I believe it was BBoy) stated, Jesus is God


That was me and other than you I think everyone just glanced past my posts
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