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Offline lady_minstrel

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Doing scale runs
« on: December 23, 2005, 12:35:06 PM »
I know how to do "runs" a little bit with both hands but I'm not sure of the fingering and notes when it comes to going up and down the keyboard.  Can someone help a sista out?
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2005, 01:14:27 PM »
Hi 'lady_minstrel'

Its like you read my mind, I need help with this too; all those who can help us please post.

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Re: Doing scale runs
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2005, 01:19:25 PM »
Quote from: lady_minstrel
I know how to do "runs" a little bit with both hands but I'm not sure of the fingering and notes when it comes to going up and down the keyboard.  Can someone help a sista out?
Of the little I know the runs you do tend to be based on one of the scales associated with the key your playing in, I know alot of people start with the blues scale or the pentatonic scale and move on from there. The best I can say is to take one of them and find a pattern that you like the sound of. Of course with that being said your fingering will follow depending on what scale and what pattern you end up using. Hope this atleast partially answers the question  :)

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Doing scale runs
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2005, 06:44:51 PM »
gtsjames-hey.  I understand what you told me and I appreciate you sharing.  Now, I do know a little about the blues scales (I play in a Jazz Band) but it's just knowing and grabbing the concept of what notes to play exactly.  Do you mind giving me and Pianowizard an example.  I'm a visual learner and if I can see how it's done...then it's on!
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2005, 04:30:52 PM »
I think runs are wanted by a lot of people. They seem to enhance your playing and they bring life to basic chords. I think it is hard for people to share their runs though. I have asked, on a couple of occasions, for us to have an open share where we can take turns posting runs so we can all benefit from each others runs. Most people will say mess around with the major scale or the blues scale. We appreciate the advice but it doesn't seem specific enough. (lol I'm not trying to be ugly). I've notice that some real simple to explain runs could take for ever to discover. The bad thing is when you hear some one play a run, effortlessly, and you go home to try to figure it out and it just want come. You feel everyone knows this runs but you.

Something that I found out to be real simple is to play the blues scale three keys down from the key you are playing in. So if you play a Eb 7th chord in your left hand you would play the blues scale (fast) in the key of C (C, Bb, G, F#, F, Eb, C -repeat down the keyboard). Finding out what fingers to use to make the pattern sound continuous down the keyboard may be the challange but those are the notes.

If there are any others that could and would like to help us learn more runs we all would be most grateful!

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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2005, 07:09:47 PM »
I'm not a big runner, but I know the fingerings for a lot of the runs. There are some fingerings posted Learning Center, here:

http://www.learngospelmusic.com/modules/Scales/image.php?path=pdf/scales.pdf


If you can't access the link, then that means you're not a "premium" member.

Basically, though, with your right hand, your thumb will usually land on or near C and F. You don't want to start a run with your thumb on a black key. It'll throw everything off.

You should get yourself a scale book too. I have "The Gig Bag Book of Scales for all Keyboards". It has all the scales from major/minor to blues, whole tone and pentatonic. It doesn't have diminished scales (basically a dim7 arpeggio) and arpeggios though. You'll have to get an arpeggio book for that. Although, the same principle for scales apply to arpeggios as well.

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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2005, 07:29:11 PM »
thanks B3Wannabe and the others for posting this topic, that link definitely helped me out as i've also wanted to add more to my repertoire of scales, in the mean time merry christmas and a happy new yr to everyone

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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2005, 07:31:48 AM »
B3wannabe and emusiq: THANKS!!  That helped a great deal.  I didnt check out the links yet but still just the fact that you explained what you could was a blessing.  And emusiq, that blue scales is something that I'm familiar with.  My instructor taught me that real quick and I can actually run it kind of fast.  Thanks!! Now, thats what I call [/b] TEAMWORK
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2005, 04:18:26 PM »
Hey thanks B3! I need to be a premium member to take advantage of that resource.

Lady minstrel, I wasn't quite sure if you understood what I was say. I knew that most people knew the blues scale but I was saying that playing the C blues scale sounds totally different when you are playing in the key of Eb. The blues scale in the same key your playing in is used a lot when your tunning up a preacher, for instance, but playing the same scale in a key three keys higher sounds like something you would play when your jamming!
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