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Offline ShadowPhace

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« on: October 28, 2005, 01:29:24 PM »
What kind of keyboards do you all have? I have a yahama DGX 205
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2005, 02:26:50 PM »
I have a radioshack keyboard.
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2005, 12:56:44 AM »
lol....I have a Roland A-33 Midi Keyboard controller...it was my dads...when he died, I took over, hopefully tryin to make as good of music as he did.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2005, 03:36:31 AM »
I've been doing this for 30 years, so basically I have (or have had) them all. One critical mistake that musicians make is that they think if they get a more expensive keyboard that it will make them a better player.

More than once I have seen somebody (myself included) with a super keyboard set-up get put to shame by someone else who was just playing the piano.

To answer your question - my current arsenal is:

Motif
Motif EX
Triton Extreme
MS2000
K2000R
Q Rack
Karma - lightweight and easy to carry
WaveStation EX
Fantom Rack
SY-77 - Old Faithful
And a G2X - killer board, but not very useful in gospel

Lots of softsynths, MiniMoog V, Modular, SonikSynth, etc.

Next purchase will be a Virus.... and that will be my last keyboard purchase.. I promise, really ; )

I suppose the next question will be - which one is my favorite? The answer is all of them. That's kind of like asking "what's your favorite software program?" Windows, Outlook, Explorer? Again the answer is all of them.

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2005, 07:00:36 AM »
Quote from: ashtonpage
I've been doing this for 30 years, so basically I have (or have had) them all. One critical mistake that musicians make is that they think if they get a more expensive keyboard that it will make them a better player.

More than once I have seen somebody (myself included) with a super keyboard set-up get put to shame by someone else who was just playing the piano.

To answer your question - my current arsenal is:

Motif
Motif EX
Triton Extreme
MS2000
K2000R
Q Rack
Karma - lightweight and easy to carry
WaveStation EX
Fantom Rack
SY-77 - Old Faithful
And a G2X - killer board, but not very useful in gospel

Lots of softsynths, MiniMoog V, Modular, SonikSynth, etc.

Next purchase will be a Virus.... and that will be my last keyboard purchase.. I promise, really ; )

I suppose the next question will be - which one is my favorite? The answer is all of them. That's kind of like asking "what's your favorite software program?" Windows, Outlook, Explorer? Again the answer is all of them.




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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2005, 07:44:43 AM »
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I hear you about the better keyboard thing. However, what do you recommed if you have a keyboard (Roland) RS-9 with no sequencer for drum beats. I am starting a small praise team and I am the only musician. I would like to have drums as a part of the ensemble. what would you do? By the way, I am beginner/intermediate keyboard player and am aspiring to play for a church in the new year. I did have an Alesis beat machine but I've since given it away because it was so hard to make a beat pattern.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2005, 01:16:07 PM »
roland fantom x6 with the world, ultimate keys and street beats expansion card

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2005, 04:16:39 PM »
Hi there,

Yes, I am a professional. I am currently the musician in a Black Baptist church and struggling somewhat because I come from a White Pentecostal background.... I'm not struggling with the church, I'm struggling with everything being in Eb. Bb. Ab etc. and how to incorporate the gospel chord styles. I learned to play with guitarists - so my strong keys are E, A, B (believe it or not).

Anyway - gordonk47 - there are some options for drums. I was going to recommend the Alesis Drum machine, because it sounds great. But you're right about programming it - it's a drag and it's hard to get a "real" drummer feel to the beats that you do program.

What I have used in the past (and had the best luck with) is a MiniDisc player that I would record real drum loops into.  I would record track 1 to be the first song, track 2 for the second song and so on. I would record a 4 beat count-in click then follow it with a loop of the drum pattern. Then I just had to hit FF button to the next song then hit play. Worked great.
 
The problem with a drum machine is that you have to call up pattern number THEN set the tempo and make sure it's set on the right "kit" then hit start - you know the routine. BUT if you hit one wrong button (pattern, song, tempo) you're in serious trouble - this will usually happen in front of the whole church (and it has).... aarrrrgghh!

So anyway, I used real drum loops, recorded into my MiniDisc player. If the song is 3 minutes long I would record 5 or 6 minutes of the drum loop just to be sure I had enough.

http://www.betamonkeymusic.com/

Has some real good deals.

Also SuperLoops if you buy it on eBay you will get a good deal. SuperLoops sounds more punchy, BetaMonkey has tighter grooves. Each CD will give you hundreds of grooves to choose from and you can usually find what you want with 2 or 3 CD’s

The downside to using a MiniDisc playback is that there is no way to put in fills.

You could also output the loops into a WAV file and burn a CD then play it back with a portable CD player. This would be less expensive than buying a MiniDisc recorder.

I used Zero-X (software) to set up the drum loops but you could also use CoolEdit, or a variety of other audio edit progs. Then I plugged my Minidisc recorder into the soundcard and recorded the drum loop playing over and over.

The drum machine that I had the best luck with was a BOSS Dr. Rhythm DR-770 because you could set up the footswitch to retrigger to the beginning of the pattern. So when the choir got off tempo, I could retrigger the drum machine to get back in synch with the choir.

If you get a drum machine make sure it has GM (General MIDI) mapping. The Alesis does NOT have this, but you can program it (sort of) to accept GM patterns (kind of). There are a ton of MIDI drum patterns on the Internet. If you want a program where all the beats are organized (and there are hundreds of beats) - laid out nicely and easy to find what you're looking for:

www.drumtrax.com

The DrumTrax beats are a little dated (like 1980) and you're not gong to find anything exotic on that prog. But is is easy to locate the patterns with.

You should be able to download some WAV drum loops for free, run them through some looping software and output a WAV file to burn to a CD (all for free) and see if this set-up will work for you before you spend any money on something that's not going to do what you want.

Hope this helps and God Bless,

Ashton

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2005, 02:50:32 PM »
I have an alesis qs8.2.
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2005, 06:26:16 PM »
I want to get a CASIO WK3700, i keep hearing how nice it is.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2005, 12:47:51 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2005, 01:25:48 PM »
I have a Motif Classic 61.

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2005, 02:32:47 PM »
I have Triton Pro 76 key and Triton Studio...

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2005, 02:54:49 PM »
How would you all rate a yamaha DGX 205?[/size] I know that it is not the best keyboard out there, but give me a break...I'm a broke college student.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2005, 02:55:47 PM »
How would you all rate a yamaha DGX 205?[/size] I know that it is not the best keyboard out there, but give me a break...I'm a broke college student.

From a 1 being the poor performance keyboard, to a 10 being top of its class.
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2005, 08:54:43 AM »
Yamaha DGX 202!
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2005, 09:39:00 AM »
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How would you all rate a yamaha DGX 205?I know that it is not the best keyboard out there, but give me a break...I'm a broke college student.

From a 1 being the poor performance keyboard, to a 10 being top of its class.


A musician at church just bought a CASIO WK 3500, which is the same price as the DGX 205.  He can't believe how good the CASIO WK 3500 is (now mind you he always hated casio).  Some fear the CASIO franchise of keyboards, however, this musician says that CASIO did a really good job with WK 3500.  He told me it was really great to have at home.

Also do a google search and do a search for DGX 205 review, or keyboard reviews.

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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2005, 11:49:18 AM »
The Yamaha DGX line has some great sounds but I like more keys than the 202 offers...  But is a very decent board dont be ashamed of it!!!

Me personally I own Casio WK1800 & WK3200, Roland EP9, and a Motif RackES.

I'm gonna try to sell the ES rack and get a Motif 8 keyboard, I think.

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2005, 10:58:48 AM »
bigtforreal"I want to get a CASIO WK3700, i keep hearing how nice it is

I just got the Casio WK3700 and it is awesome in a lot of ways- the organ sounds on it are fantastic, and the key action is similar to an organ- the keys are touch-senstive but they are not weighted.  I like that about it.  Plus you can't beat the price.   The piano sounds are just okay.  Some of the strings patches sound really real...plus it has the "Leslie" wheel that you can use for vibrato and stuff...it's a lot of fun.
The church has a nice Kawai ES1, only about 8 different sounds on it, but the key touch is really nice for piano, and I think it sounds great.  Of course some people only like a "real" piano...but get real... l like to know I'm in tune.

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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2005, 12:11:54 PM »
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bigtforreal"I want to get a CASIO WK3700, i keep hearing how nice it is

I just got the Casio WK3700 and it is awesome in a lot of ways- the organ sounds on it are fantastic, and the key action is similar to an organ- the keys are touch-senstive but they are not weighted.  I like that about it.  Plus you can't beat the price.   The piano sounds are just okay.  Some of the strings patches sound really real...plus it has the "Leslie" wheel that you can use for vibrato and stuff...it's a lot of fun.
The church has a nice Kawai ES1, only about 8 different sounds on it, but the key touch is really nice for piano, and I think it sounds great.  Of course some people only like a "real" piano...but get real... l like to know I'm in tune.


That's good to know, because I'm about  85% sure I will get a Casio WK3500 or Casio 3700 now.

I'm not a professional or advanced player, nor do I make music, so if
CASIO came up like everybody say it has, I'm going to get it.  I plan to go to the stores and try it soon.
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