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Offline LaylaMonroe

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #560 on: June 14, 2011, 02:03:41 PM »
Do we have to follow your outline, and read the text you are reading just to understand basic....oh nevermind.  It's your thread.  I found that to be...

:)  Going back to the general thread where regular people can discuss topics that they....
Nevermind. [/quote]

Umm, didn't you already read the book?? LOL! So you have an understanding, right? So how could you take that so personally?? ?/?

Also, you should know that it's not "my outline" nor is this "my thread." We all discussed and decided mutually on this book and this schedule (which I didn't even develop). All I did was copy/paste it into a new thread.

I feel a very mild sense of hostility or something. I don't like it. I'm used to having a lot of peace here. This is my hideaway from the rest of the church world and people I know, etc. I don't like tension, and I wasn't saying anything targeted to anyone. The fact is that none of us is articulate or studied enough to convey what Barna and Viola were saying in as effective a manner as they did. Therefore, we're raising ruckus about the book with people who haven't read it and therefore misunderstand it (understandably so). Discussing the subjects is one thing. Discussing the book is silly. IMO.
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #561 on: June 14, 2011, 02:06:45 PM »
You went off on your rant and then expected nobody to reply? 
Take care and enjoy YOUR peaceful hideway. 

I suppose I can't voice my views without causing you to feel tension. 

But your post just seemed...
but I'M being hostile?

Okay.

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #562 on: June 14, 2011, 02:09:09 PM »
You went off on your rant and then expected nobody to reply? 
Take care and enjoy YOUR peaceful hideway. 

I suppose I can't voice my views without causing you to feel tension. 

But your post just seemed...
but I'M being hostile?

Okay.

Ok ok that's enough!  :)

Let's just enjoy the rest of our day! Deal? Deal! :)

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #563 on: June 14, 2011, 02:14:44 PM »
I think it's disastrous to discuss this book with folks who haven't read it. What church person wouldn't think it's a bunch of outlandish gibberish if they haven't read it?

Discussing topics and subjects, sure. Discussing the book - with folks who haven't read it? ?/? I just don't get it. It's an obvious disaster. And none of us is scholarly enough to make the case the authors made, so all we're doing is putting it in our own words with isn't nearly compelling. It's just havoc.

That's all. I'm just venting. No need to pay me any mind. It's like trying to convince someone of the truth of Black History when they haven't studied it for themselves, so all they know is what the white school systems taught them for decades.

I don't need a referee but thanks anyway.  That was an opinion...a strong one....
So the other post (that I found to be very helpful and contructive) was just havoc???  We have not studied it for ourselves and its only what people have taught us for decades.

Yeah that's pretty strong..and because I comment about it now I'm violating a safe place of peace??? lol Wow.  Who knew?

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #564 on: June 14, 2011, 02:16:05 PM »
That wasn't a rant, MicCheck and I don't have a problem with anyone replying. I just don't want anyone to take anything personally, because it wasn't an attack. I don't understand (I'm truly baffled) how you took that personally - ESPECIALLY since you read the book. ?/?
That said, I didn't mean the BC was my hideaway, I meant the entire site. The LGM family. We've been family for years. We know each other well, and I don't usually have to defend stuff when folks already know what I mean. Even when we disagree, we usually do it without hostility and tension and sarcastic innuendos and stuff. This is just weird. And unusual.
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #565 on: June 14, 2011, 02:16:29 PM »
I don't need a referee but thanks anyway.  That was an opinion...a strong one....
So the other post (that I found to be very helpful and contructive) was just havoc???  We have not studied it for ourselves and its only what people have taught us for decades.

Yeah that's pretty strong..and because I comment about it now I'm violating a safe place of peace??? lol Wow.  Who knew?

Ok, it's not that big of a deal now. Let's move on and discuss these things in the name of Jesus, whether we agree or not.

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #566 on: June 14, 2011, 02:18:51 PM »
It was strong, but it wasn't personal. Why did you take it personally??? I don't get that at all. ?/?
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #567 on: June 14, 2011, 02:21:06 PM »
Smh.  Take care.

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #568 on: June 14, 2011, 02:30:39 PM »
Ftr, it's the hostility and extreme defensiveness that violated peace, not your comment. Trust me, we are a group of outspoken people around here. We challenge each other and we sharpen each other's iron and have been doing so for years. But nobody really gets defensive like that over comments that weren't even directed to them. I just truly don't get that. Read and re-read and I don't see how this took such a sharp turn.

Dang. I feel like my safe haven has been snatched away from me. The Lounge is tense, now this thread is tense. Wth??
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #569 on: June 14, 2011, 02:40:03 PM »
*long, deep sigh*
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #570 on: June 14, 2011, 02:52:31 PM »
You went off on your rant and then expected nobody to reply? 
Take care and enjoy YOUR peaceful hideway. 

I suppose I can't voice my views without causing you to feel tension. 

But your post just seemed...
but I'M being hostile?

Okay.

dang you know you just reminded me of this Nigerian dude I knew of .... oh well

Hey Mic,
Whats your opinion on ordination? I think that was the last topic we were discussing.

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #572 on: June 14, 2011, 02:56:39 PM »
For the purposes of this thread, snide and snippy are not allowed.  Come peacefully*.

#thatisall


*previous comment removed--for being snide and snippy itself.
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #573 on: June 14, 2011, 03:27:18 PM »
dang you know you just reminded me of this Nigerian dude I knew of .... oh well

Hey Mic,
Whats your opinion on ordination? I think that was the last topic we were discussing.

Am I not allowed to address this question? 

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #574 on: June 14, 2011, 03:29:37 PM »
Am I not allowed to address this question?
Stay on topic. Please and thank you.
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #575 on: June 14, 2011, 03:31:10 PM »
Wow.

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #576 on: June 14, 2011, 03:45:43 PM »
dang you know you just reminded me of this Nigerian dude I knew of .... oh well

Hey Mic,
Whats your opinion on ordination? I think that was the last topic we were discussing.

... *shrug*

umm


hmm

well


Hows the weather?

*awkward*

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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #577 on: June 14, 2011, 03:47:14 PM »
... *shrug*

umm


hmm

well


Hows the weather?

*awkward*

Belongs in the 'awkward moment thread', doesn't it?  :D
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #578 on: June 14, 2011, 03:48:07 PM »
*giggles*
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Re: May 2011 DISCUSSION: Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barna
« Reply #579 on: June 14, 2011, 03:59:06 PM »
Yeah, so although I have plenty to add to the ordination question...

I think I'll wait until tomorrow or a better time. 

Still trying to "feel" my way around this place...took a strange little turn for a moment.
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