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Offline dwest2419

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Im kind of having trouble with this...
« on: February 19, 2007, 06:19:36 PM »
Im kind of having trouble with what kind of scale or what walking bassline this is, and finding out what key im in.

I start on...Notes: A,B,C,Db,D,Gb,G, and back to A again. I guess you can say that its like some kind of gospel run (not sure on this though) could be.

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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 06:23:55 PM »
Anybody?

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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 06:36:20 PM »
There was only 5 minutes in between those 2 post. :)

Its kinda hard to tell what it is without seeing it in context.
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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 06:42:14 PM »
There was only 5 minutes in between those 2 post. :)

Its kinda hard to tell what it is without seeing it in context.

i agree with 4HG.

but i would have to guess the key of A

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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 08:19:12 PM »
Thanks you guys. But what kinf of scale am i working with here?

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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 09:34:22 PM »
Im kind of having trouble with what kind of scale or what walking bassline this is, and finding out what key im in.

I start on...Notes: A,B,C,Db,D,Gb,G, and back to A again. I guess you can say that its like some kind of gospel run (not sure on this though) could be.

O.K., I've played what you have here and I know what this bass line is.  Even though it's missing a note, this is part of the classic shout pattern used during shouting music.  It is in the key of A, so here is the whole thing:

Here is the regular shout bassline:  A, C#, D, D#, E, F#, G, G# (repeat)

Here is a variation to that bass line:  A, B, C, C#, D, F#, G, G# (repeat)

It's not really a scale, it's more of a gospel bass line.  Churches have been playing this bass line for years.  I've never seen too many people playing it in A, but it can be done, takes a whole lot of practice.
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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2007, 10:07:53 PM »
Thankx alot. Man, I never knew that!

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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2007, 10:13:36 PM »
Hey, you think you can write out and gospel classical baselines in every key? Since you said that people often play it iin the key of A.

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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2007, 10:20:56 PM »
Hey, you think you can write out and gospel classical baselines in every key? Since you said that people often play it iin the key of A.


What i can do is give you the link where I already posted many bass lines found in church.  Once you have a bass line, break it down into scale degrees, then you can use that to learn them in every key.  Here is the link:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,32178.0.html

Just in case you don't know anything about scale degrees, you need to visit this link and learn some basic music theory:  http://forums.learngospelmusic.com/index.php/topic,30189.0.html
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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2007, 10:45:33 PM »
Thanks for the website. Can this info be a lil helpful to gutarist?

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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2007, 10:47:44 PM »
Thanks for the website. Can this info be a lil helpful to gutarist?

It sure can.  Music theory is universal for any instrument, it's just the application that is different depending on the instrument.
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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2007, 02:18:33 PM »
Im kind of having trouble with what kind of scale or what walking bassline this is, and finding out what key im in.

I start on...Notes: A,B,C,Db,D,Gb,G, and back to A again. I guess you can say that its like some kind of gospel run (not sure on this though) could be.

The scale can be simply considered A major with the blues inflection for the third (both C and C# -- b3 and natural 3 as related to generic blues scale, not the sharps and naturals of A major)  If we re-write it A B C C# D (E) F# G A, the only variant (besides the missing 5th or E) from A major or A minor is that both thirds are present.  This is one of the keys to the blues sound, the contrast and juxtaposition of the major and minor 3 of a scale.  They may occur in quick succession, together as a half step, or in the dominant 7 #9 (A7 #9) the #9 being the same note as the minor 3 (C in this case).  The B is simply passing.

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Re: Im kind of having trouble with this...
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2007, 11:06:51 AM »
The scale can be simply considered A major with the blues inflection for the third (both C and C# -- b3 and natural 3 as related to generic blues scale, not the sharps and naturals of A major)  If we re-write it A B C C# D (E) F# G A, the only variant (besides the missing 5th or E) from A major or A minor is that both thirds are present.  This is one of the keys to the blues sound, the contrast and juxtaposition of the major and minor 3 of a scale.  They may occur in quick succession, together as a half step, or in the dominant 7 #9 (A7 #9) the #9 being the same note as the minor 3 (C in this case).  The B is simply passing.



I should have said "A mixolydian" -- A major with a lowered 7th (G instead of G#)
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