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Shuffle School is in Session
« on: August 03, 2006, 01:47:38 AM »
Aight folks... time to really learn your triplet 12/8 8th note swinging African heritage which is an American Music foundation for Jazz, Country, Funk, Gospel etc.

Did you know that the clave most often associated with Latiin/Afro-Cuban/Brazilian Music came from Africa and it's 6/8 - 12/8 rhythms?

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Purdie
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In Japan:



Jeff Porcaro
http://drummerworld.com/Videos/jeffporcaroshuffle.html

Tribute To The Late Jeff Porcaro:


Dennis Chamber
http://drummerworld.com/Videos/dennischamberspearl.html
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Zoro
http://drummerworld.com/Videos/Zoroexpmd2005.html
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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2006, 08:19:36 AM »
That's HOT!!!!!! :o  I think i'm going to go back to my grooving roots.
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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2006, 10:27:26 AM »
Sabe thanks mannnnnn! Taking notes. SP the Root is best place. "Sankofa" which means to return to roots. I’m gone…
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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2006, 10:35:54 AM »
You need to get some footage of Will Kennedy up on this joint playing the song off of Blue Hats.  That joint was FIYA!!  Ima go back thru my clinic files and see if i can't find the transcription of it and get it up on here.
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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2006, 12:03:45 PM »
Submit me goood Shuffle vids by PM'ing me... I will review and add to the posted list. Please PM me because I want to keep a certain standard and authenticity going on this one. Your participation much appreciated.
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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2006, 12:59:23 PM »
Sabe,

Since you're the LGM Village Elder, where can i get full tapes or dvd's like this? I know they don't sell stuff like this in stores.
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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2006, 01:14:57 PM »
Sabe,

Since you're the LGM Village Elder, where can i get full tapes or dvd's like this? I know they don't sell stuff like this in stores.

Actually all of these can be found in stores or online in vid format.

The Purdie stuff is not on DVD yet but is on VHS... The first of his clips is from his VHS - Groove Master
The Japan clips are available from his web site... 3 VHS's

The Jeff Porcaro stuff is on DVD available at Guitar Center etc

The Zoro bass drum clips as well as an indepth lesson on a variey of complex shuffles ins on the Modern Drummer Weekend 2005 DVD in all music stores.
THe other clip is from his Commandments of RnB Drumming DVD available at Guitar Center etc


The Dennis clip is just on line though he is doing the Rosanna Shuffle that Jeff Porcaro teaches/created which came from the Purdie Shuffle and John Bonham. Dennis just adds his flavor with ethe hihat ride crossover. Zoro teaches that lick on his Cmmandments of RnB Drumming DVD.


Most of these coma be bought through Amazon. If you go to www.drummerworld.com and watch the clips their are links to vidss by most featured drummers.
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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2006, 11:17:07 PM »
Man that's some good stuff!

But I gotta say, Zoro's positioning on that youtube joint gives me vertigo... I know, I know, I know - he's using that drum frame thingy but still...  :o

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2006, 07:47:33 PM »
i think i'll go make a shuffle video and put a twist on it :D

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2006, 04:17:21 PM »
please explain to me(keys) what you mean by shuffle.i listen to a lot of the old school jazz organ cats,and their stick players are out of sight.purdie played with a lot of those guys.charlie earland(organ) used to talk about 10/4.i've played 4/4.12/8,guess there is even 7/4.9/8,11/8.is the "shuffle" the snare,ride,or something else? sorry-don't speak "sticks"but trying to learn.be blessed.playin for JESUS

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2006, 08:32:48 PM »
Bernard Purdie has a Great Personalilty  :D. He's fun. One of my favorite feels is the 12/8, 6/8 time signature. It flows when you got it.

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2006, 08:02:03 PM »
please explain to me(keys) what you mean by shuffle.i listen to a lot of the old school jazz organ cats,and their stick players are out of sight.purdie played with a lot of those guys.charlie earland(organ) used to talk about 10/4.i've played 4/4.12/8,guess there is even 7/4.9/8,11/8.is the "shuffle" the snare,ride,or something else? sorry-don't speak "sticks"but trying to learn.be blessed.playin for JESUS

I snagged this from a couple previous explanations I gave to an LGM members. I hope this gives you some understanding to the subject...

NOTE: Shuffles can be played anywhere on the kit. RnB focuses on the kick, HipHop on the Kick and hihat.  Blues put it everywhere but a lot on the snare, hihat and ride cymbal, Jazz puts it on the ride and snare mostly. Country puts it on the kick and hihat mainly. Rock is on the kick with double pedal or double bass drums.

Shuffles... aahh they get us all at some point because there areso many. The Jeff Porcaro DVD from Hal Lenard, The Groove Master VHS from Bernard Purdie - The Master, The MD Fest Weekend 2005 DVD - Zoro section is great on shuffles, Blues Drumming with Tom Breitchlin (sp?) - the basics of swingingand shuffling, THe Drumset Crash Course by Russ Miller.

Shuffles are swing patterns that use the first and last notes of a 8th note triplet grouping 1 a2 a3 a4 wher the "a" sets up the next note like Tap-daTap-da Tap (Generally jazz, blues, runb, gospel, rock-n-roll) or a 16th note duple grouping with is a bit bouncier and quicker than the 8th note shuffle, TapdaTapdaTap (hard rock, nu metal, drum-n-bass, hip-hop). Thick hiphop hihat-ish or drum-n-bass.

The big thing is to learn how to read it and count it aloud. Then count it aloud while playing it. You need to be able to play consistant 1-handed and 1-footed 8th note triplets and 16th notes without accents. Then practice then with accents on the first note of each set. Then only play the first and last notes of each set grouping... resting (not playing/silence) the middle note(s). DO all this with a good metronome that plays triplets and duples (quadruple 16th notes=4). Lock with e metronome and treat it like it isanother instrument in the band and make it groove.

Counting the 4/4, 3/4, 6/8, 12/8 are essential. I recommend the DVD and book set  - Groove Essentials/Groove essentials the Play-a-long book to demonstrate/help you practice. Shuffles are all about pocket(place in the beat) and feel (swung/laid-back/syncopated, bouncy). Double-Pedal rock shuffles are the same way but seem to sit differently and call for more power and more confidence. You can here some wild shuffles on the thread called More Marco, Rabb and Lang.

One-thing I have found with my study/practice of the shuffle is that you have to be solid and confident to be able to go in and out of them as well as flexible. You need to be able to play them single-limb or multi-limb and with diddles and multiple bounces etc.

I hope this helps. Feel free to ask more.
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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2006, 07:15:22 AM »
hey sabian-thanks!!! that was a great explanation of what's goin on.it's so kool with the LGM family helping one another.WORD says it please FATHER when bros +sisters are in unity.keep playin',praisin' blessing.if not now,someday we will ALL get our prze on,together before HIS throne-HE is worthy!

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2006, 08:02:06 PM »
Again Dennis does it with another monster shuffle creation. This time playing with John McLaughlin...




CHeck it out...

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2006, 11:34:10 AM »
New Dennis clip added... Make comments....
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Re: Shuffle School in Session
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2006, 05:12:39 PM »
 ;D ;D DENNIS CHAMBERS tha Man, Grooving Shuffle Extreme,NICE :)

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2006, 08:30:36 PM »
...yeah just plain disgusting.  Why do I play ?/?

...I saw this clip off of his .com a while back.  Very inspiring.

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2006, 10:14:33 AM »
Hypnotizing… The man’s shamanic trance state is intoxicating. Study time.

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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2006, 10:33:05 AM »
Hypnotizing… The man’s shamanic trance state is intoxicating. Study time.



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Re: Shuffle School is in Session
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2006, 11:37:40 AM »
THERE IS A CURE! THERE IS A CURE!
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