Yeah, SabianKnight knows the details on it. He told me but I forgot somethings. I remember that he requested something from Yamaha and it didn't go through and he told DW about it and they had whatever it was for him the next day at NAMM or something like that. I can't remember but I remember when Sabe told me that, my jaw dropped. He was with Yamaha for like 20 years or something. Man, that's crazy. To me, that's like D. Chambers leaving Pearl and going to DW or Gretsch. Oh well, that's the way the business is. They love you and then they don't.