NO MORE TRANSPOSE QUESTION

[lifelonglearner]

Hey LGM,

I'm working with Jamal Hartwell's No more Transpose and I'm on Eb.  He gives some progressions to learn but my question is CAN YOU BE ON A CERTAIN SCALE DEGREE AND THE ROOT NOT BE TO CORRESPONDING NOTE ON THE SCALE.  Example:  He gives 5-1-4

5= RH: Bb,F          LF: Ab,C,Db,F   (Bbm9)
1= RH: Eb,Bb,Eb   LF: G,C,Db,F    (Eb7/9/13)
4= RH: Bb,Eb        LF: G,Bb,C,Eb  (GMaj9)

Another example:  3-6-2-5-1

For the 2 the root is a C  (C,F,Ab,Bb,C,Eb,G) [Fm9]

Are these mistakes or is this possible?  I DON'T PLAY WITH A BASS PLAYER

Thanks for any input!

[betnich]

That '4' looks like a perfect4th in the LH - more like Cm7/Bb. (Close cousin to the Tritone - Aug4th)
This kind of voicing seems popular with Gospel/Jazz players.
What kind of chord progression? Maybe a walkdown like Cm, Cm/Bb, Ab ???
If it seems incomplete, just substitute a C (root) as the bottom note in the LH...

[cas10a]

I believe the 4 chord - Bb was meant to be an Ab, it's a common progression...AbM9   

[chevonee]

I have that course...it's AWESOME!!!! It looks like the other guys have answered your question. If you need anything else....hit me up! I love NO MORE TRANSPOSE, it's worked wonders for me!!!

[lifelonglearner]

Thanks.  I really think these are just mistakes.  These chord names are driving me insane!  LOL I think the names are wrong on some too.  But overall it's a great program, it's been helping me.  I just don't want to learn the wrong chords. 

[T-Block]

It's probably just typos, unless it's rootless voicing for chords with the bass player or organ pedal playing the bass notes. Having the chord names should be good enough. Since u should already know basic theory, u can come up with your own voicings.

5= RH: Bb,F          LF: Ab,C,Db,F   (Bbm9)
1= RH: Eb,Bb,Eb   LF: G,C,Db,F    (Eb7/9/13)
4= RH: Bb,Eb        LF: G,Bb,C,Eb  (GMaj9)

Are you really playing full chords in the LH? Looks backwards to me.

What does the LF stand for?

[lifelonglearner]

Oops I meant left hand not LF.  I think he makes mistakes on some of the names too.  I looked up some of the chords and the notes are different than what he says.  I'm just going to email him I think he has corrections.

[chevonee]

It's a lot of work to do. By the time you get finished, you should be SHONUFF Beastly!! I got it 2 years ago and it took me a year and a half to get through it. I still have keys that I love more than others. Playing in E is so much fun!!!!!!! People are shocked when you play in A and E around here.

[lifelonglearner]

Haha, E is my favorite key (at least right now)  Israel plays a bunch of his stuff in this key!

[docjohn]

welcome Life!!!  learn to play in ANother key besides E!!!! unless ya wanna be a guitar player ha ha ha

I played cont p+ w for TOOOOO many years-seems ALL we ever played was E B G C

To answer your question,the bass-if not playing within the specific chord adds flavor.It helps add/relieve "tension" and assists movement.

A lot of times it is called a suspended chord,like a C chord C E G over an F bass.

In "organ-eese" I think the correct term is pedal point.Do a search in the organ room for Diversi 379;he posted a lot of good stuff along these lines

[T-Block]

I wish I didn't have a favorite key.

[chevonee]

I wish I didn't have a favorite key.

Dude as BEASTLY as you are on the keys...LIKE WHATEVER YOU WANT!!! You've earned that right...seriously!!
BTW, my favorite key is Eb and E now that I've completed this course.

[T-Block]

Dude as BEASTLY as you are on the keys...LIKE WHATEVER YOU WANT!!! You've earned that right...seriously!!
BTW, my favorite key is Eb and E now that I've completed this course.

LOL!!!