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Offline diverse379

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Some more pretty phat voicings/added 2-51 example
« on: April 27, 2006, 09:39:23 AM »
I made a mistake previously they are corrected now and if you go to my third post I give a nice 2-5-1 of this concept as well as the theory behind the two handed version

these are some tight voicngs I dont know whay more people dont play them but you will find they are very useful

we all know about fourth voicnings and how you can play them as any quality well you can do the same for voiccings in fifths

These are left hand voicings
the y lend themselves well to the organ
try soloing over them
notice there is no bass note your bass player will have to supply the bass note or you may have to reverse stride the bass note or leave it out sometimes. why not?

Cmaj7
B F# C  or E B F#

Cmin7
   C G D  or A Eb Bb  or Eb Bb F

cmin7b5 
 F C Gb   or Gb Db Ab

C7
 C G D or Ab Eb Bb

Cdim 
  B F# C

Csus
C G D  or Bb F C

there are others but these are some of the more useful ones

using fifths and fourths can completely turn your playing into something fresh sprinkle these in with your chords

they are so easy to se the thought process makes them easy to begin using immediatly   
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Re: Some more pretty phat voicings you will like easy easy
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2006, 10:47:24 PM »
For me, for some reason......the I chord only sounds right as a triad or 7th chord.  I guess i have to get use to the altered sound.
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Re: Some more pretty phat voicings you will like easy easy
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2006, 11:27:47 PM »
I dont understand what you mean

the first chord sounds right as a triad???

explain

do you meanthat you only like major7 chords played straight without alteration?
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Re: Some more pretty phat voicings you will like easy easy
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2006, 07:41:43 AM »
For me, for some reason......the I chord only sounds right as a triad or 7th chord.  I guess i have to get use to the altered sound.


Are you saying as a starting or ending chord?

Also, I'm having a hard understanding this post in general.

Cmin7   C G B  or A Eb Bb  or Eb Bb F
exactly how is this chord supposed to work, and what if one doesn't have a bass player?
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Re: Some more pretty phat voicings you will like easy easy
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2006, 08:04:24 AM »
these are some tight voicngs I dont know whay more people dont play them but you will find they are very useful

we all know about fourth voicnings and how you can play them as any quality well you can do the same for voiccings in fifths

These are left hand voicings
the y lend themselves well to the organ
try soloing over them
notice there is no bass note your bass player will have to supply the bass note or you may have to reverse stride the bass note or leave it out sometimes. why not?

Cmaj7  = E G, D  or E B F#

Cmin7   C G B  or A Eb Bb  or Eb Bb F

cmin7b5  == F C Gb   or Gb Db Ab

C7= C G D or Ab Eb Bb

Cdim   B F# C

Csus
C G D  or Bb F C

there are others but these are some of the more useful ones

using fifths and fourths can completely turn your playing into something fresh sprinkle these in with your chords

they are so easy to se the thought process makes them easy to begin using immediatly   
Uhmmm, I may not be the smartest cookie out there, but what exactly is a fourth or fifth voicing? Did I miss a class on that?? :-\  ?/?

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Re: Some more pretty phat voicings you will like easy easy
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2006, 08:24:32 AM »
Uhmmm, I may not be the smartest cookie out there, but what exactly is a fourth or fifth voicing? Did I miss a class on that?? :-\  ?/?



I think Diverse may be referring to the interval between each note as a 4th or a 5th away. For example:


Cmin7   C G B  or A Eb Bb  or Eb Bb F



The distance from C to G is a fifth (although, I'm not quite sure how his theory works going from the G to the B in this chord)

The distance from A to Eb is a flat 5th; while the distance from Eb to Bb is a 5th

The same distance of a 5th is seen going from Eb to Bb and from Bb to F

Anyway, I think that's what he's talking about. Either way, I'm still confused on its application.
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Re: Some more pretty phat voicings you will like easy easy
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2006, 08:50:42 AM »
I apologize for the confusion two of the chords were printed wrong I have corrected it

these voicings i gave were meant as left hand voiings so they are arranged to either play with your pedall on the organ or with a bass player if you dont have a bass player use the two handed voicings and pedal your bass note or just dont play the bass note at all you have to let your ear be the judge


The theory is that you are playing perfect fifhts

I cant tell you how to arrange a song with the chord its a useful chord to throw in the mix sometimes you could use it as a passing chord you could use it within a progression its a chord that is unexpected it has a ring to it so it can work under a melody really well that is why I gave them as left hand voicngs 

But here is a 2-5-1 in Bb using the concept

the chords are
C-7 F7  Bbmaj7
play the bass notes if you want to hear the roots
  C-11             F7#5#9         Bbmaj7b5   or    Bb 6/9
Eb Bb F      Db  Ab  Eb        D AC E  or             C G D

let me give you the two handed method

Cmaj7 voicing in fifths

GDA/EBF#

GDB/F#B

C -7  in fifths
C G Eb Bb F C

The theory is
Determine the chord quality and respective chord scale

voice down from the desired melody note using scale notes in fifths

intervals other than fifths may be used as long as the main intervals are fifths

avoid adfacent non fifths intervals

avoid b9 intervals

be sure to include the tritone in all dominat seventh voicings


here is a 2-5-1 
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