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Offline oversabby

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Reading Melodies spontaniously.
« on: February 07, 2006, 10:52:40 PM »
Hello guys!
I think I would need some advice.
is there any rules guiding one when one is to Read the melody of a song with the keyboard especially when you are expected to do this on stage with practising it before.
For me with some songs it is easier :when the notes are not so far from each other,with some other songs :where the notes are scattered i do go sometime half note before or after the taget note.
I think i should say this:I donīt read music .lI do play from my Feeling for the scale.
If i have to pratisce the melody of a song before hand it is easier :I use scales and inversions of chords to remember my movement and sometime Octave.But to play new melody spontaniously is sometimes not so easy for me.
Maybe i need more pratisce on this area :Training my ears with Melody(scale movement ) movement on the keyboard.
Thanks!

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Re: Reading Melodies spontaniously.
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2006, 01:04:14 PM »
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Hello guys!
I think I would need some advice.
is there any rules guiding one when one is to Read the melody of a song with the keyboard especially when you are expected to do this on stage with practising it before.
For me with some songs it is easier :when the notes are not so far from each other,with some other songs :where the notes are scattered i do go sometime half note before or after the taget note.
I think i should say this:I donīt read music .lI do play from my Feeling for the scale.
If i have to pratisce the melody of a song before hand it is easier :I use scales and inversions of chords to remember my movement and sometime Octave.But to play new melody spontaniously is sometimes not so easy for me.
Maybe i need more pratisce on this area :Training my ears with Melody(scale movement ) movement on the keyboard.
Thanks!



Are talking aboutreading notes on paper? If so, then I can help. Reading your post I'm not sure if that's what you mean.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2006, 10:59:14 PM »
Sounds like u talking about sightreading.  If so, then that is a skill all by itself.  I give props to anybody who can do it.  I can't sightread very well, but I can follow along while someone else is playing.  Or I can play it a note or chord at a time very slowly and build speed once i learn it.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2006, 12:08:09 PM »
I am not talking of sightreading in its when you mean from sheet.
I cannot read song from sheet.I can play melody of songs from feeling of scales on the keyboard i know when the melody is and where it will go to from a starting point i am still trying to develope this skill.Reading the Melody with the right hand and chording or surporting the melody with the left hand.This is defferent from sight reading.
I have seen so many people do this I am still learning .
Lately I even discover you can be very good with this technic If you are very good with inversion.Instead of running the melody as a note you can even chord it with the melody on top.One can even experiment with any chord on the right hand which is having the same melody on top for example if the melody note is G.One can with the right hand play a C major:c e g,Csus:c f g,or even a Bflat ,Dflat ,E,G or Bflat,Eflat,G.  while the left hand is on a G.
One have to experiment with the right and and judge with your ears for the sound.

I still have problems to read melody spotaniously i must have to pratice it first except on some very few occations.

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Reading Melodies spontaniously.
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2006, 01:00:13 PM »
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I am not talking of sightreading in its when you mean from sheet.
I cannot read song from sheet.I can play melody of songs from feeling of scales on the keyboard i know when the melody is and where it will go to from a starting point i am still trying to develope this skill.Reading the Melody with the right hand and chording or surporting the melody with the left hand.This is defferent from sight reading.
I have seen so many people do this I am still learning .
Lately I even discover you can be very good with this technic If you are very good with inversion.Instead of running the melody as a note you can even chord it with the melody on top.One can even experiment with any chord on the right hand which is having the same melody on top for example if the melody note is G.One can with the right hand play a C major:c e g,Csus:c f g,or even a Bflat ,Dflat ,E,G or Bflat,Eflat,G.  while the left hand is on a G.
One have to experiment with the right and and judge with your ears for the sound.

I still have problems to read melody spotaniously i must have to pratice it first except on some very few occations.



Ok, then you're not even talking about reading music. You're talking about something else entirely. I'm not sure that I can help. Sorry.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2006, 01:06:33 PM »
Ohhhh, I get what you're saying now.  You have to really know your chords and inversions in order to become better at that.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2006, 04:31:48 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2006, 02:55:38 PM »
An exercise that can help you is to first pick a key and write out a melody.
Once you got a melody written out, write down all possible chords that can go with each melody note that is associated to the key you are in.  Then, try out different combinations.  Progressions help with the combo process a lot.  Let's do one for example:

Key C

Melody line: C, D, E, F, E, D, B, D, C

Chords in key of C w/inversions:

C-E-G, E-G-C, G-C-E
D-F-A, F-A-D, A-D-F
E-G-B, G-B-E, B-E-G
F-A-C, A-C-F, C-F-A
G-B-D, B-D-G, D-G-B
A-C-E, C-E-A, E-A-C
B-D-F, D-F-B, F-B-D

Melody line with possible chords:

C = E-G-C, F-A-C, E-A-C
D = F-A-D, G-B-D, F-B-D
E = G-C-E, G-B-E, A-C-E
F = A-D-F, A-C-F, B-D-F
E = G-C-E, G-B-E, A-C-E
D = F-A-D, G-B-D, F-B-D
B = E-G-B, D-G-B, D-F-B
D = F-A-D, G-B-D, F-B-D
C = E-G-C, F-A-C, E-A-C

All that's left is to come up with your own combos.  I would go ahead and write out the C major chords for the first and last note cuz u in the key of C and u probably want to start and end with a 1 chord:

C = E-G-C
D = F-A-D, G-B-D, F-B-D
E = G-C-E, G-B-E, A-C-E
F = A-D-F, A-C-F, B-D-F
E = G-C-E, G-B-E, A-C-E
D = F-A-D, G-B-D, F-B-D
B = E-G-B, D-G-B, D-F-B
D = F-A-D, G-B-D, F-B-D
C = E-G-C

Now, let's go to the end.  What chord usually comes before  1 chord?  Yup, u guessed it, a 5 chord so let's fill that in:

C = E-G-C
D = F-A-D, G-B-D, F-B-D
E = G-C-E, G-B-E, A-C-E
F = A-D-F, A-C-F, B-D-F
E = G-C-E, G-B-E, A-C-E
D = F-A-D, G-B-D, F-B-D
B = E-G-B, D-G-B, D-F-B
D = G-B-D
C = E-G-C

You see what I mean?  If you can practice doing this then when you see a melody line, you'll already begin to formulate in your mind what chords you want to play with each note.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2006, 10:46:34 PM »
Hello TBlock!
Thanks for the break down.
That was very helpful.
It is  so nice having people like you around.
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