To add on subject...I think Chris is who he is. I mean to me he plays much better live, but hey on Cd he has a killer pocket. From what I know John really lays it down hard on Chris about being disciplined as a drummer, or just musician point blank. John plays drums too, and he is not a sleeper at all. I mean everybody isnt going to like him, but I just respect him for what he brings to the table....and Im talking about the big picture...musicianship with spirituality.