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Offline MemphisKeys

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How do you come up with talk music...????
« on: July 03, 2008, 04:05:46 PM »
 ?/? ?/? ?/? I just wanna know how do you come up with talk music is it just different progressions over and over or what any help please....
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 05:41:08 PM »
Do you know I call you faithful? The one Donnie Mcclurkin did.

I use to start my talking music off with the intro to that song, and go from there.

I will try to come up with something and post it

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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 06:05:45 PM »
Usually start off with the beginning of "In Humble Adoration". If i am at a loss, i play a Imaj7 to a IV maj7
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 06:31:29 PM »
Usually start off with the beginning of "In Humble Adoration". If i am at a loss, i play a Imaj7 to a IV maj7


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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 07:49:18 PM »

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I meant to say that i start off playing bits and pieces from the song below



Sorry, its a very bad rendition but you get the idea.
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2008, 09:09:40 PM »
I meant to say that i start off playing bits and pieces from the song below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18M2F5hxI0s

Sorry, its a very bad rendition but you get the idea.


You mean the song, "We worship You today" by Shekinah Glory. I thought that's what you meant.
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2008, 09:20:38 PM »
When I come up with the answer to this, I will post. Might take a while, like some years. Because nobody Ive ever come in contact with can give me a method or philosophy about it that would make creating our own talk music easy. He's not asking for examples, he's asking for the how and why.

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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 11:33:29 PM »
He's not asking for examples, he's asking for the how and why.
I dont think that its a certain way to play talk music.
I play different songs nice, soft, and slow. then take it from there
Its more like experimenting

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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 07:46:28 AM »
?/? ?/? ?/? I just wanna know how do you come up with talk music is it just different progressions over and over or what any help please....

That's basically it.  Talk music is such a broad category, to make it simple just take a small progression, a play it really slow.  After u play a chord, add in a little run or something b4 hitting the next chord.  U could also take a song or part of a song and play around with it.

There really is no right or wrong chords to play for talk music, only the technique u use to play them.  U don't want to play full blast, but u don't want to be too quiet.  Sometimes, u can judge by how the person is talking when to put more "umph" in your chords and when to back away.
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2008, 09:23:58 AM »
I also play "Bread of Heaven" by Fred Hammond very slowly. Its great talk music.
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2008, 09:44:07 AM »
That's basically it.  Talk music is such a broad category, to make it simple just take a small progression, a play it really slow.  After u play a chord, add in a little run or something b4 hitting the next chord.  U could also take a song or part of a song and play around with it.

There really is no right or wrong chords to play for talk music, only the technique u use to play them.  U don't want to play full blast, but u don't want to be too quiet.  Sometimes, u can judge by how the person is talking when to put more "umph" in your chords and when to back away.

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T...is correct, you basically answered your own question...take a small progression slow it down, add your own flavor.  I usually play an octave +1 so that whatever song/progression is not noticeable while the speaker is speaking (you don't want the congregation to sing along while the speaker is speaking).  If that happens they are listening to the music and with talking music, it should only compliment what the speaker is saying.  Noone should really notice the music.  If you think about it, it's like watching a movie, there are plenty of times during scenes where someone is speaking and there is music in the background (a lot of times the same theme song for the movie played differently), but you don't notice the music, however it's setting the mood of what's being said on screen.

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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 10:24:23 AM »
As a musician i find it very hard to listen to a preacher being backed up by talking music. I always want to listen out for the chords or whatever the guy is playing.
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 11:34:56 AM »
I take small progressions from different songs. Which songs progressions I will use, depends on the mood.
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2008, 12:26:03 PM »
I take small progressions from different songs. Which songs progressions I will use, depends on the mood.
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2008, 01:34:13 PM »
Thanks to all of you....for you help God Bless???? but can someone tell me how do you can up with the right voicing for different progressions???
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2008, 02:05:20 PM »
Thanks to all of you....for you help God Bless???? but can someone tell me how do you can up with the right voicing for different progressions???

Can you give an example of a progression you need help with?

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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2008, 04:56:25 PM »
Thanks to all of you....for you help God Bless???? but can someone tell me how do you can up with the right voicing for different progressions???

There is no "right voicing". It's whatever you would have it to be. For example:


Fm7 = F / Ab C Eb
         F / C Eb Ab
         F / Eb Ab C

See that? Three voicings for the same chord. YOU choose where the melody goes or whether there is a 'melody' and you're just playing some chords together in a 1-2-5-1 type of progression or something.

Hope that helps.
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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2008, 11:50:38 PM »
Now you guys are talking!
Thanks to all of you....for you help God Bless???? but can someone tell me how do you can up with the right voicing for different progressions???
What I do is, I try to rearrange my chords, using inversions so song is less recognizable, and cadences sound less final. So  I invert in a way that my bass is different, not just my chords. Say if I was playing a 2-5-1, Id play that last 1 as a 1over3, 1/3, or the third degree being played in the bass. SO in essence, it turns into a chord sounding a lot like a six which actually stretches out my cadence,  and takes me to other places.

Hope thats not too confusing

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Re: How do you come up with talk music...????
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2008, 09:45:59 AM »
I take small progressions from different songs. Which songs progressions I will use, depends on the mood.

That right theeerrrr (int), is pretty much it!  However, you don't always have to use a different progression, you can stay within the framework of a song/progression and play some minor chords at times within the progression and take the mood from happy to sad.

example...
**movie ex.,***
If you watched "The Color Purple" they played the theme song at different times throughout the movie and used the same song progression, just played differently during the sad parts or the happy parts.  The way it was played set the mood.

**sitcom ex.,**
"The Brady Bunch"...they played this song so many ways, I can't even start to explain, but it always fit the mood of the scene even though it was the same progression.  "Jamie Foxx" even put a spin on the song musically when he played it...
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