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When you play do you use the proper.....
« on: January 24, 2008, 11:31:00 AM »
When you play do you use the proper fingering?

When I do runs I try use the right fingers, but when I play songs I usually just do what feels right, which is  sometimes wrong.

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Re: When you play do you use the proper.....
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 11:55:20 AM »
To me proper fingering depends on the individual.  I use fingering that I have developed over the years specifically for my hands.  Every now and then, I use the nearest finger cuz I done trained my fingers to do what I tell them to, LOL.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 01:09:46 PM »
The only time i use the proper fingering is when im teaching..
 but other than that.. no

when im doing my own thing.. i do wat feels right...
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 02:49:56 AM »
The only time i use the proper fingering is when im teaching..
 but other than that.. no

when im doing my own thing.. i do wat feels right...

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 06:46:45 AM »
Honestly as others have said it depends on the situation if your teaching something or are showing someone something for them to use proper fingering helps, but most of the time I do what feels natural to me.

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 07:08:21 AM »
Interesting.  so, why learn proper fingering?  I am a student and i am learning proper fingering.   
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Re: When you play do you use the proper.....
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2008, 07:43:15 AM »
That's an easy one, if you learn proper fingering you won't strain your hands playing the wrong way. We teach our kids to sit straight so they won't have a curved back when they get older, same principal.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2008, 08:02:53 AM »
That's an easy one, if you learn proper fingering you won't strain your hands playing the wrong way. We teach our kids to sit straight so they won't have a curved back when they get older, same principal.


That makes prefect sense, thank you.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2008, 08:04:42 AM »
That's an easy one, if you learn proper fingering you won't strain your hands playing the wrong way. We teach our kids to sit straight so they won't have a curved back when they get older, same principal.

True. And when you use the proper fingering, it makes it a lot easier to execute runs and stuff

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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2008, 08:21:06 AM »
True. And when you use the proper fingering, it makes it a lot easier to execute runs and stuff
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2008, 01:54:13 PM »
Nope. If I'm learning something from music I figure out the best fingering to execute the passage and then learn it that way and use it. But playing without music, never. Unless you've practiced a certain run a certain way enough times that the fingering comes by osmosis. Whatever works.

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2008, 02:18:01 PM »
Proper fingering to me seems extremely important, especially when you are just learning.  You will develop good fingering skills easier, and they will stand you in good stead throughout your playing career.  Even when you later "do your own thing" those skills are still at play. I can see now that it is so much easier to play altogether using proper fingering, and I wish that I had that training and those skills.  I would say to a person just learning, bite the bullet and learn proper fingering. You will not regret it. 
I have a Yamaha Motif XS keyboard.  When I first got it, I was having serious finger and hand pain after playing it for long practice sessions.  I have had and have other boards that did not cause this pain.  I posted on motifator. com and received suggestions that my pain might have been caused by the mechanics of my playing.  I took a real close look at my approach to my board and my fingerng, and noticed that my fingering was atrocious and I hadn't even noticed.  I was stretching the middle finger of my right hand severely and barely using my ring finger at all(among other things).  I made a conscious effort to correct my fingering, adjusted my seating in relation to the board raised the height of my stool, and the finger and hand pain ceased to be a problem. Why it wasn't a problem on  Korg, casio, roland boards that I have/have had, I don't know.
Additionally, it it reinforced something that I already knew and had not really acted upon.  It is much easier to play overall using proper fingering. Learning on my own, I had developed many bad habits and was reluctant to put in the time to change them. There is wisdom in the madness of learning proper fingering. The best time to gain those skills is when you start.

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2008, 02:32:35 PM »
True. And when you use the proper fingering, it makes it a lot easier to execute runs and stuff
THIS TRUE BECAUSE WHEN I DIDN'T DO I WOULD MISS SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.
Proper fingering to me seems extremely important, especially when you are just learning.  You will develop good fingering skills easier, and they will stand you in good stead throughout your playing career.  Even when you later "do your own thing" those skills are still at play. I can see now that it is so much easier to play altogether using proper fingering, and I wish that I had that training and those skills.  I would say to a person just learning, bite the bullet and learn proper fingering. You will not regret it. 
I have a Yamaha Motif XS keyboard.  When I first got it, I was having serious finger and hand pain after playing it for long practice sessions.  I have had and have other boards that did not cause this pain.  I posted on motifator. com and received suggestions that my pain might have been caused by the mechanics of my playing.  I took a real close look at my approach to my board and my fingerng, and noticed that my fingering was atrocious and I hadn't even noticed.  I was stretching the middle finger of my right hand severely and barely using my ring finger at all(among other things).  I made a conscious effort to correct my fingering, adjusted my seating in relation to the board raised the height of my stool, and the finger and hand pain ceased to be a problem. Why it wasn't a problem on  Korg, casio, roland boards that I have/have had, I don't know.
Additionally, it it reinforced something that I already knew and had not really acted upon.  It is much easier to play overall using proper fingering. Learning on my own, I had developed many bad habits and was reluctant to put in the time to change them. There is wisdom in the madness of learning proper fingering. The best time to gain those skills is when you start.

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Re: When you play do you use the proper.....
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 01:26:02 PM »
Nope. If I'm learning something from music I figure out the best fingering to execute the passage and then learn it that way and use it. But playing without music, never. Unless you've practiced a certain run a certain way enough times that the fingering comes by osmosis. Whatever works.

I always found the fingering on the music to be quite straining to me at times.  I have often been reading a piece and could play it using my own fingering, but if I really tried to play what they wrote I messed up.  I think that once we learn the proper fingering for the scales and the rules that govern those fingerings that a good fingering will naturally come as we play songs.

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Re: When you play do you use the proper.....
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2008, 07:43:46 AM »
Nope. If I'm learning something from music I figure out the best fingering to execute the passage and then learn it that way and use it. But playing without music, never. Unless you've practiced a certain run a certain way enough times that the fingering comes by osmosis. Whatever works.

 Key word:Whatever works.
I dont bother myself trying to learn the fingerings that worked for some1 else if i have seemingly easier ways of doing the same chops.may be it's because the bass is my primary instrument,but there are times when i just dont flow with some of the "Laws of fingering'.Whoever made those fingering charts was only sharing what worked for them. I'll do same for me
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