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Offline D-Nice

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WHO PLAYS BY EAR, AND WHO WENT 2 SCHOOL??? !!!
« on: July 29, 2005, 08:09:38 AM »
i am just curious to know who, like me, plays by ear and has had no real formal training. Or on the otherhand, how many of you have gone to school and know this is what you are gonna be doing 4ever, which is cool too. I wish i had taken music in school cuz i'd be a lot better off.

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2005, 09:15:02 AM »
I have been formally schooled from my first year, which was 1989 through my last year at college (before transferring to finish my degree elsewhere) in 1998.  

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2005, 10:04:03 AM »
I've never had schooling, and I've played (on and off) for about 15 years.  I do want to take some classes just to know the basics and the jargon, but I live in Omaha NE (hick town) and I don't know anyone around here that gives lessons that I know is good though.  I know most of y'all on here are from bigger cities where music and culture is a lot more diverse, and I admire and look up to y'all a great deal.  I'm so happy to have found this website and gospelchops.com because I've learned, and am still learning a lot!!

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2005, 12:04:39 PM »
I've been formally trained since the 6th grade until now( junior in college, percussion major). The formal training just makes you better at what you already have naturally. Just because you don't have formal training doesn't mean you're not a good musician or that a person that has had formal training is better than you. Case and point, Dennis Chambers, one of the greatest drummers of All Time, is a self-taught musician. But formal training makes everything A Lot Easier!!

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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2005, 12:47:29 PM »
I ENJOY PLAYING BY EAR! I HAVE ALOT OF CHOIR CDS THAT I LISTEN TO, SO I'M USED TO FIGURING OUT WHAT THE DRUMMER IS DOING. WHEN PEOPLE TELL ME ABOUT NOTES N TINGS I GET SOOOOOOO LOST :? I ALSO HAVE A FEW LIVE CONCERT VIDEO TAPES OF CALVIN RODGERS AND BIG MIKE, SO THAT ALSO MAKES IT ALOT EASIER TO GRASP

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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2005, 01:13:32 PM »
i'm in skool now.. in church i play by ear but in skool i read music ..
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2005, 01:19:34 PM »
My only formal training was on the snare in the school band in 4th grade.  When I busted my practice pad during the summer before 5th grade, I never went back and that was 25 years ago.  I regret it to this day.  When people say things like "Give me a 3/4, 4/4, 6/8, or 5/7 groove or beat", I don't really have a clue.  Sometimes I feel like the guy in Drumline who was great at playing by ear and just memorized everything.  I definitely would encourage anyone who is starting out to at least get a basic foundation in understanding time signatures, theory, notation, reading, etc.  As a previous replyer indicated, it only makes what you can already do naturally that much better.

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2005, 02:03:11 PM »
iv been self taught by ear all my life BUT...i had a teaCher wen it came 2 reading
chris "Daddy" DAve ROCKS!!!
jesus ROX HARDER!!

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2005, 02:55:26 PM »
The first instrument I learned how to play was the saxophone, and I played that from elementary school until I graduated from high school.  So when I began playing drums around age 14 or so, I could already read extremely well.  However, in my early years as a drummer I only played by ear.  I think that since drumset is not classically considered a so-called "melodic instrument"...meaning that you don't play actual notes...I could get away with playing by ear because I really just needed to learn rhythms and coordination and become comfortable with moving around the kit.  That being said, nowadays, on of my biggest expenses playing the drums is books.  For me personally, I learn faster when I can see a patterns and licks written out.  Also being able to write out my own patterns helps me to keep from forgetting them and makes my practice time more effective.  Also, something to keep in mind is that learning to read is not as hard as many cats think.  The truth of the matter is that you can probably already play a lot of what you may see in a book.  It's just a matter of learning to recognize what a particular lick looks like on paper.  All that being said, I believe that reading is a skill any serious musician should seek to master because the benefits of being able to do so will greatly improve your playing, particularly being able to write things out for yourself.  However, I also believe that when it's time to sit down at the kit and express yourself, just pray, be lead by the spirit, and carry out your ministry.  Let your light shine and be a blessing to the body of Christ.  All glory and honor belongs to Him.

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Re: WHO PLAYS BY EAR, AND WHO WENT 2 SCHOOL??? !!!
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2005, 03:01:48 PM »
Quote from: D-Nice
i am just curious to know who, like me, plays by ear and has had no real formal training. Or on the otherhand, how many of you have gone to school and know this is what you are gonna be doing 4ever, which is cool too. I wish i had taken music in school cuz i'd be a lot better off.

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I had some lessons here and there but mostly I am self taught .
Once I got started I just stayed in the Stick Control book along with Ted Reed's Syncopation and now with dvds and tapes the information is easier to access.
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Re: WHO PLAYS BY EAR, AND WHO WENT 2 SCHOOL??? !!!
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2005, 04:22:01 PM »
Quote from: D-Nice
i am just curious to know who, like me, plays by ear and has had no real formal training. Or on the otherhand, how many of you have gone to school and know this is what you are gonna be doing 4ever, which is cool too. I wish i had taken music in school cuz i'd be a lot better off.

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D-Nice


The feeling is mutual, I wish I had taken music in school also. I thank God for what He has taught thus far. Continue to play for God's glory no matter what.

Be blessed
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2005, 04:36:10 PM »
I started off by ear, but now I am doing both.  Don't listen to that BULL S@$! that some people say about people that read like, "They can't play unless they have music in front of their face". The people that read very well take away from themselves to devote their musical abilities to cats like Beethoven , Haydn, and Bach.  That takes alot of devotion and hardwork, just like we learn songs and licks by ear. Learn to do both and you can fulfill more than you expected in your life as well as filling both of your pockets!   8)
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2005, 08:51:56 PM »
Since a drummer asked this question, I will respond from the perspective of a drummer.

God gives each man an intelligence.  There is a current theory on multiple intelligences that says there are 8 different ones. Music is one of the intelligences.  I graduated from the US Army School of Music in Norfolk, Va with a 3.06 out of a 4.0 system.  Mr. Billy Cobham had come through the school before I got there.  He was an enlisted man just like me.  All I could ever hear were praises of how good Billy was.  He is ambidexterous.  He is a master sight reader. He plays the full percusion ensemble..ie...snare, bass drum, cymbals, tympany, xylophone, bells, vibraphone, any and all auxilliary percusion.  If you can hit it and make a sound Billy is a master.  He has what some might call freakish skill, like a Tiger Woods or a Venus Williams.  All men are not created equal, sorry.

Is all of this necessary to have a good time and rejoice in serving the Lord.  No, but let us be all that we can be, even if it is not in the army.

Music has a lot to do with feeling and projecting how you feel to others.  What comes from the heart goes to the heart. How do we hear God?  He speaks to us through our hearts.  Learn to communicate and express good feeling and music will take care of itself.


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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2005, 10:36:37 PM »
All equal doesn't mean all equal in the same detailed way. All equal means all equal overall.  My strength may be your weakness, and your strength may be my weakness.  But, overall we all are equal in what we have to say musically if we practice. 8)
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2005, 05:58:13 PM »
I play everything by ear and feel.  I don't read.  (Well,  I know basic stuff.)  I wish there was a Drummers Collective here in Orlando Fla. where I'm at.  I would be a dedicated student. :cry:  (Not that I am now, I study a lot of Videos and Gospel Concerts.)

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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2005, 07:57:34 PM »
I was in band from 6th grade to my senior year in high school.I know how to read percussion music.In band i play the snare drum alittle bit,bass drum and triangle.I didn't start playing the drum set until six grade.im still learning
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2005, 10:12:43 PM »
i play by ear some but i have also been trained in the way of reading and all that theory stuff from school and Chris.

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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2005, 09:55:43 AM »
What's up yall.  i'm the new kid on the block.  Anyways,  I'm a senior in High School and I Play in the band, so i obviously have to read.  But, I play Timpani so i rarely use my snare skills. On the flp side, I play in church by ear.  Not to diss reading or any thing but imagine playing an entire church service with sheet music!!
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2005, 11:49:55 AM »
I went to the UNIVERSITY OF LORD I JUST WANT TO BE USED FOR YOUR GLORY......Where I recieved my BA-degree, "BORN AGAIN" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Just Trippin! I was blessed to play by ear....I would like to attend school so i may learn a theory of some sort.
Barry L. Washington

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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2005, 07:51:24 PM »
Alright that's cool. 8)   Nicely put.  Now we have 2 Universities.  (You have to read old posts to find out the other one.)  

  Anyway, I was told by a very good jazz drummer that to learn music theory all you have to do is LISTEN to music; CD's and stuff and also play with different people.   :wink:
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