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Title: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Hasmonean1 on November 28, 2011, 10:31:02 PM
I'm trying to get up a good list of instrumentals.  Any suggestions?  Here's what I have thus far and it will give you and idea of my taste.



Perfect Moment - Peter White

Children - Robert Miles

Song Bird - Kenny G

Summer Madness - Kool and The Gang

That's Just the Way It Is (instrumental) - Bruce Hornsby and Range
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: SirTJ on November 28, 2011, 10:37:21 PM
What's the occasion? Or just in general?
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Hasmonean1 on November 28, 2011, 10:42:16 PM
What's the occasion? Or just in general?

No occasion, just in general.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: under13 on November 28, 2011, 10:44:54 PM
I'm trying to get up a good list of instrumentals.  Any suggestions?  Here's what I have thus far and it will give you and idea of my taste.


Song Bird - Kenny G



I thought all musicians hated Kenny G? :D

This is my favorite one:

Jeff Lorber Fusion "Rain Dance" Minden live Dec. 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sa49AL_Ebo#)
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Hasmonean1 on November 28, 2011, 10:54:27 PM
I thought all musicians hated Kenny G? :D

This is my favorite one:

Jeff Lorber Fusion "Rain Dance" Minden live Dec. 2008 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sa49AL_Ebo#[/url])




Thanks U13, preciate it.  I'm not a musician.  I just hang out with YOU PEOPLE so Kenny G is not off limits to me.  :)
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: phbrown on November 28, 2011, 11:06:08 PM
lol!
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: phbrown on November 28, 2011, 11:10:49 PM
may be too fast based on the other stuff you posted
Lovely Day - Bill Withers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DtHp671oyE#)
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: malthumb on November 28, 2011, 11:28:08 PM
Jeff Lorber Fusion

Four Play

David Sanborn

Earth, Wind & Fire

Marcus Miller

That oughta hold you for a little while

U13, look at the credits for some of the early Jeff Lorber Fusion recordings.  You'll see a saxophonist named Ken Gorelick listed.  Kenny G got his start with Jeff Lorber Fusion.



Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: under13 on November 29, 2011, 12:40:10 AM


U13, look at the credits for some of the early Jeff Lorber Fusion recordings.  You'll see a saxophonist named Ken Gorelick listed.  Kenny G got his start with Jeff Lorber Fusion.





I have no problem with his music, but a lot of musicians do, and with smooth jazz in general. Probably because a lot of it is corny and mainstream.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Hasmonean1 on November 29, 2011, 06:15:56 AM
Thank you very much PhBrown and Malththumb.  It is truly easy to find when you seek in the proper or adequate areas.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: musicbishop on November 29, 2011, 07:10:25 AM
I know Norman Brown, George Benson, and Marcus Johnson all do jazz renditions (sp?) of secular music. Just watch out some of MJ's still uses some of the words which may have cussing (only on one song that I know of though).
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: phbrown on November 29, 2011, 07:23:23 AM
.  You'll see a saxophonist named Ken Gorelick listed.  Kenny G got his start with Jeff Lorber Fusion.


wow ... i know see why he goes by kenny G.!
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: sjonathan02 on November 29, 2011, 07:56:44 AM

wow ... i know see why he goes by kenny G.!

Must have a tough childhood for him.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 29, 2011, 08:54:32 AM
Check out these cats i personally know


Merlon devine (has 3 albums) Also a christian, incidentally.
Merlon Devine - Change (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0CpId4pD-A#)

and Alphonso Blackwell, went to performing arts wit this cat.
Free & Easy - Alfonzo Blackwell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV3EuMMxaPE#)


fourplay is good stuff.
Funny story, The church band was asked to do a jazz set for an event, and the drummer, who is also a professional driver, wanted to do "chant", and I was like "dude, i like the song, but if we aint got a chart, we aint got time to figger it out"

Next week, he came it with a chart.

He just happened to be driving for Bob James.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Fenix on November 29, 2011, 09:06:19 AM
I have no problem with his music, but a lot of musicians do, and with smooth jazz in general. Probably because a lot of it is corny and mainstream.

I actually like Kenny G. Dude has skills on that sax. I wouldn't buy his albums or anything, but I can appreciate his stuff.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: gtrdave on November 29, 2011, 09:12:19 AM
I'm trying to get up a good list of instrumentals.  Any suggestions?  Here's what I have thus far and it will give you and idea of my taste.



Perfect Moment - Peter White

Children - Robert Miles

Song Bird - Kenny G

Summer Madness - Kool and The Gang

That's Just the Way It Is (instrumental) - Bruce Hornsby and Range

Seeing as how I gravitate towards the guitar players in the world, there are tons of amazing instrumental songs by George Benson, Wes Montgomery, Norman Brown, Larry Carlton, Mike Stern, Stanley Jordan and so many others.
And then there's more keyboard-driven stuff by Herbie Hancock and Pieces of a Dream.
For sax-driven instrumentals, my friends Justo Almario, Pam Williams, Scott Mayo and Donald Hayes have all released solo records of amazing music.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 29, 2011, 09:17:15 AM
Props to those who mentioned Jeff Lorber.  I'd recommend his entire Flipside album.  Super good.

Also my favorite album of all-time, Robert Glasper's In My Element.  Oh, and Glasper's Canvas album is also amazing.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 29, 2011, 09:39:30 AM
Yeh, wes montgomery is tight.


I especially like his stuff with Jimmy Smith. 

Speakin of organ Jazz, chekout Jimmy McGriff, Joey DeFrancesco.

also, a little more modern with the Organ trio,
Check out SouLive.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 29, 2011, 09:45:03 AM
Yeh, wes montgomery is tight.


I especially like his stuff with Jimmy Smith. 

Speakin of organ Jazz, chekout Jimmy McGriff, Joey DeFrancesco.

also, a little more modern with the Organ trio,
Check out SouLive.

And a band called Lettuce.  Their albums titled Live in Tokyo and Outta Here are CRAAAAZZZY.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 29, 2011, 09:51:40 AM
Lettuce, eh?

bet. ima look into that.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 29, 2011, 09:52:24 AM
oh two words.



George.

Duke.


carry on.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: musicbishop on November 29, 2011, 10:38:18 AM
Ok I'm just realizing that how I view "secular" music makes me look like an idiot but here are more that I listen to and suggest:

Spyro Gyra

the Yellowjackets

John Coltrane

Thelonious monk
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: gtrdave on November 29, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
Ok I'm just realizing that how I view "secular" music makes me look like an idiot but here are more that I listen to and suggest:

Spyro Gyra

the Yellowjackets

John Coltrane

Thelonious monk

fyi: a couple guys who have played with Spyro Gyra and the Yellowjackets are Christ followers. I'm only saying that because some of the stuff that gets marketed as 'secular', especially the instrumental jazz stuff, is produced as a means to glorify God.
I've heard a few live clips from Norman Brown where he proudly declares his faith to the audience.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: musicbishop on November 29, 2011, 11:10:40 AM
fyi: a couple guys who have played with Spyro Gyra and the Yellowjackets are Christ followers. I'm only saying that because some of the stuff that gets marketed as 'secular', especially the instrumental jazz stuff, is produced as a means to glorify God.
I've heard a few live clips from Norman Brown where he proudly declares his faith to the audience.

That's like I was saying my view of "secular" I really have a hard time classifying jazz as secular sometimes just because there's no words so how do you know what it really is. Also, for some reason when I think secular I instantly think R&B and rap Idk why but that's just how my mind works. read my first post in here and you'll catch it but you have to pay close attention ( well maybe you don't lol).
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: gtrdave on November 29, 2011, 11:19:45 AM
read my first post in here and you'll catch it but you have to pay close attention ( well maybe you don't lol).

No, that includes me, too. I missed your first post...  :-[   :)
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Hasmonean1 on November 29, 2011, 12:57:28 PM
Thanks peeps, looks like I have a lot of homework to do but it will be worth it to get all that great music in one place.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: malthumb on November 29, 2011, 03:51:19 PM
Earl Klugh and Tim Bowman are both guitarists (and Detroiters woot! woot!) who have recorded gospel jazz CDs.  And Terrance Palmer (another Detroiter, bassist with Fred Hammond for a while, then Israel & TNB) has just released a jazz CD.  Haven't heard all of it yet, but I'm told it's nnnnnice!
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: musallio on November 29, 2011, 05:25:11 PM
You guys listen to hot-stuff 8)

MAY I PLEASE REQUEST THAT THIS THREAD BE STICKIED- VERY GOOD STUFF AND MAKES LIFE EASY FOR US WHO WANT TO COLLECT MUSIC, ONE GENRE/ ARTIST AT A TIME.

I did notice though that you were quite sexist, so I'll throw in Barbara Dennerlein.

I also thought R&B, Rap etc, but amazingly, everything seems to evolve around jazz....
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 29, 2011, 05:39:37 PM
ahhhhh, the dennerlein chick. she is fyah on the tonewheels.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: musallio on November 29, 2011, 05:53:04 PM
ahhhhh, the dennerlein chick. she is fyah on the tonewheels.

Yeah, she reminds me of ol' Jimmy Smith- but unique in her own way..
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 29, 2011, 10:14:14 PM
cant mention dennerlin without mentioning this throwback

its been posted here before.Ethel Smith - tico tico (Hammond Organ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEr-AKJr-LI#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: phbrown on November 29, 2011, 10:45:57 PM
wow some great music up in here
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 29, 2011, 10:58:22 PM
And a band called Lettuce.  Their albums titled Live in Tokyo and Outta Here are CRAAAAZZZY.


Lettuce, eh?

bet. ima look into that.


A little peek into the awesomeness of LETTUCE

Lettuce - Break Out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5hYLC4_F9w#)

You MUST listen until the end.  It starts getting downright nasty around 6:27 and only gets better.  The chords he plays at the end are just....  Whew.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: BassbyGrace on November 29, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
Yeah, I LOVE Lettuce and Soulive. I'll throw in Snarky Puppy too.

Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 29, 2011, 11:18:18 PM
Yeah, I LOVE Lettuce and Soulive. I'll throw in Snarky Puppy too.

Can you recommend an album from them?

I am so feeling this thread.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: BassbyGrace on November 29, 2011, 11:31:39 PM
This is one of my favs, and it seems to come from the "Tell Your Friends" album.

Flood (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UDYwWqBnd8#)
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: kodacolor on November 30, 2011, 12:07:05 AM
"You Make Me Smile" - Dave Koz
"Honey-Dipped" - Dave Koz
"All I See Is You" -  Dave Koz
"It's a Shame" - Paul Jackson Jr.
"Bayshore Drive" - Paul Jackson Jr. (maybe)
"Safari" - Keiko Matsui
"It's Time" - Brian Culbertson
"Christmas Time is Here" (From Charlie Brown)  Based on Spotfiy the best fully instrumental version I've heard so far is "The Lori Mechem Quartet".
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: under13 on November 30, 2011, 12:13:39 AM
Yeah, I LOVE Lettuce and Soulive. I'll throw in Snarky Puppy too.



Yeah, I'm feelin SP. I want to say that one of it's members is on LGM, but I'm not 100 percent sure so I won't say the name...
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 30, 2011, 12:38:43 AM
yeh, lettuce is nice.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: musicbishop on November 30, 2011, 04:20:41 AM
A little peek into the awesomeness of LETTUCE

Lettuce - Break Out ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5hYLC4_F9w#[/url])

You MUST listen until the end.  It starts getting downright nasty around 6:27 and only gets better.  The chords he plays at the end are just....  Whew.



Man this the first time I've heard The Awesomeness of Lettuce and I'm loving it. Can I find them in stores or do I have to take the itunes route.


@BBG- Snarky Puppy  is the truth. they came to louisville in a free concert and I missed it because my sister neglected to tell me since she didn't know who they were. The nerve of that girl!!!
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 30, 2011, 06:59:20 AM

Man this the first time I've heard The Awesomeness of Lettuce and I'm loving it. Can I find them in stores or do I have to take the itunes route.


@BBG- Snarky Puppy  is the truth. they came to louisville in a free concert and I missed it because my sister neglected to tell me since she didn't know who they were. The nerve of that girl!!!

I don't shop in stores anymore so I don't know.  I'm not sure about iTunes either since I don't use them anymore.  I'm a Rhapsody guy.  You can find them on Rhapsody and Amazon.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Hasmonean1 on November 30, 2011, 12:39:45 PM
"Safari" - Keiko Matsui

Now that's real deal in my book.  I haven't gotten around to 90 percent of what has been posted. I listened to here due to more than one persons suggestion.

I have yet to listen to 90 percent of what has been posted here.  I will however keep plugging along.  I wasn't expecting so much to out there. WoW  :o :o, and thanks again everyone.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Arkhams Finest on November 30, 2011, 03:27:15 PM
This is one of my favs, and it seems to come from the "Tell Your Friends" album.

Flood ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UDYwWqBnd8#[/url])


I didn't see this post until just now but I actually watched that vid yesterday after you mentioned SP.

OMG.  Teh drummer.   :-X
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 30, 2011, 06:29:12 PM
Again previously posted,

For an "OMG what is she thinking" listen, check hiromi uehara
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on November 30, 2011, 09:59:12 PM
Art blakey's crusaders?
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Arkhams Finest on December 01, 2011, 10:23:02 AM
Again previously posted,

For an "OMG what is she thinking" listen, check hiromi uehara

Yea, Hiromi is crazy good.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on December 01, 2011, 11:12:14 AM
HIROMI UEHARA "XYZ" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6pgM-NVfWg#)

She's one of those you like to watch to play cuz she looks like she's having fun Art blakey's another one fun to watch.



Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on December 01, 2011, 11:22:05 AM

Just on a whim i watched some old footage of....wait for it..............






Liberace.....






WOW.....i forgot how much of a beast dude was.....

he was a fruity flame, but a beast nonetheless....
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: BassbyGrace on December 01, 2011, 11:43:16 AM
How could I forget one of my main favorites and influences, Mr Joshua Redman?  I love all his stuff, but the Elastic and Momentum albums STAY in rotation for me.

Joshua Redman Elastic Band - Swunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuenLSZnr8#)

I can NEVER figure out when hes going to come in after 4:09 LOL.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Arkhams Finest on December 01, 2011, 11:55:56 AM
How could I forget one of my main favorites and influences, Mr Joshua Redman?  I love all his stuff, but the Elastic and Momentum albums STAY in rotation for me.

Joshua Redman Elastic Band - Swunk ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuenLSZnr8#[/url])

I can NEVER figure out when hes going to come in after 4:09 LOL.


Jazz Crimes FTW!  LOVE that song.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on December 01, 2011, 07:40:26 PM
AHHHH rite rite rite!!!! The "Messengers"..I somehow confused the two.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: phbrown on December 01, 2011, 10:55:35 PM
WOW!!! I have never heard of lettuce but WOW!!! ... I wonder if they are ever coming to my city for a tour
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: phbrown on December 01, 2011, 11:00:20 PM
i wonder if Lettuce's plans anything or do they just let us groove?
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: sjonathan02 on December 02, 2011, 05:41:15 AM
I'll have to listen to some of these when I get a moment.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: Hasmonean1 on December 02, 2011, 11:18:19 PM
Just listened to nearly all of Four Play's music and loved it all.  Thanks again Malthumb.  Max O Man is my favorite.
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: THE WOLFMAN on January 17, 2012, 12:00:05 AM
a broadway buddy of mine just put me on to these swedish guys that do covers of other people's song's with their twist to it.


Dirty Loops Baby (Justin Bieber cover) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjVGJ3YFDc8#ws)
Title: Re: SekueLar SECULAR MUSIC SekueLar
Post by: malthumb on January 17, 2012, 10:49:05 AM
Ok I'm just realizing that how I view "secular" music makes me look like an idiot but here are more that I listen to and suggest:

Spyro Gyra ..........

Spyro Gyra story....not as cool as the Bob James' driver story, but....

When I was growing up in Buffalo, Spyro Gyra was the house band for a small jazz club called The Tralfamadore.  It was on Main St., halfway between my house and my high school.  On the days when I didn't steal my Mom's car to go to school (subject for another thread) my best friend (drummer) and I would sneak into the Tralf on the walk home from school and watch Spyro Gyra rehearse.