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Title: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on April 28, 2010, 10:50:16 AM
...alright yall, the fight is this Saturday 1st of May.  I can't wait!  Who yall got?
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on April 28, 2010, 10:56:50 AM
...alright yall, the fight is this Saturday 1st of May.  I can't wait!  Who yall got?

I have Mayweather but something is giving me a bad felling that he get caught with one from Shane. Just like Judah did against Kosta Tszyu. I hope not.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on April 28, 2010, 11:01:12 AM
I have Mayweather but something is giving me a bad felling that he get caught with one from Shane. Just like Judah did against Kosta Tszyu. I hope not.

I do too.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: Hasmonean1 on April 28, 2010, 12:55:48 PM
Conventional wisdom says Mayweather, but I'm feeling like this may be his toughest fight to date.  I wouldn't be suprised if Mosley pulled it off.  Mayweather been out of the ring for a long time and living the life.  That hunger sometimes takes a boxer to whole new level.  Conversely, the lack thereof will prove to be a detriment to a boxer.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: b3wannab on April 28, 2010, 01:01:48 PM
Mayweather!  Mosley will be cryin' by the 7th round. ;D   Floyd will have him frustrated with his speed and Shane will cry to the ref about non-existent fouls! ;)
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: joshuag on April 28, 2010, 02:56:22 PM
Mayweather
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on May 03, 2010, 09:00:59 AM
Either Mosley looked good or Mayweather is just that good, which on is it? :)
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 03, 2010, 09:08:47 AM
Surprised no one is talking about the fight. I watched the entire thing and my predictions were almost accurate (Floyd didn't fall in the 2nd). Needless to say, Mayweather once again proved he's one of the greatest ever. It was a masterpiece from rounds 3-12.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on May 03, 2010, 09:17:02 AM
Surprised no one is talking about the fight. I watched the entire thing and my predictions were almost accurate (Floyd didn't fall in the 2nd). Needless to say, Mayweather once again proved he's one of the greatest ever. It was a masterpiece from rounds 3-12.
It was indeed.  What surprised me was not the fight itself, but how gracious Mosely was in a post-fight interview that I saw.  Normally, when guys get beat that soundly, they try to downplay it.  But, Mosely just talked about how Mayweather shut him down and how he just felt that he couldn't do anything.  Showed some class there.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: joshuag on May 03, 2010, 09:25:01 AM
Well now that this is settled, he needs to take care of Pacman... hahaha
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 03, 2010, 09:29:19 AM
It was indeed.  What surprised me was not the fight itself, but how gracious Mosely was in a post-fight interview that I saw.  Normally, when guys get beat that soundly, they try to downplay it.  But, Mosely just talked about how Mayweather shut him down and how he just felt that he couldn't do anything.  Showed some class there.

I don't think Mosley could've downplayed it if he wanted. Just by looking at his facial expressions after each round, he knew there was nothing more he could do. Even his trainer threatened to thown in the towel.
(although I think that was some weak motivation, seeing that it was already the 9th or 10th round.) I did think Floyd would have taken a shot during the interview. And I like the way he answered the Pacquiao question.... If he takes the drug test, we have a fight. If not, a definite NO.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on May 03, 2010, 09:33:04 AM
The big question now is, will he fight Pac.  Pac has said he'd fight him if no blood is taken withing 24 days (or something like that).  To me, if Mayweather doesn't accept that, he's dodging him.  They will take blood after the fight so if any enhancing drugs are taken, it will be detected then.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 03, 2010, 09:39:13 AM
The big question now is, will he fight Pac.  Pac has said he'd fight him if no blood is taken withing 24 days (or something like that).  To me, if Mayweather doesn't accept that, he's dodging him.  They will take blood after the fight so if any enhancing drugs are taken, it will be detected then.

I think it's a fair deal if both fighters are doing it. Pacman needs to man up. I don't believe that Floyd is dodging if this is the only thing holding up the fight.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on May 03, 2010, 09:42:54 AM
The big question now is, will he fight Pac.  Pac has said he'd fight him if no blood is taken withing 24 days (or something like that).  To me, if Mayweather doesn't accept that, he's dodging him.  They will take blood after the fight so if any enhancing drugs are taken, it will be detected then.

Do you mean 24 days prior to the fight?

My question would be: Why?
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: jjblack on May 03, 2010, 09:44:44 AM
dismantled him...

Pacman needs to just man up and take the drug testing.  Mosley did it.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: sjonathan02 on May 03, 2010, 09:46:15 AM
dismantled him...

Agreed...at the same time, Mosley like 107 years old.  :D
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on May 03, 2010, 09:49:58 AM
I think it's a fair deal if both fighters are doing it. Pacman needs to man up. I don't believe that Floyd is dodging if this is the only thing holding up the fight.

Same here. 

Mosley submitted to drug testing. 

My question is, if Mosley did it, and Floyd did it, why is Paquiao refusing?  Why?
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on May 03, 2010, 10:04:30 AM
Mosley submitted to drug testing. 

An old fighter past his prime looking for a pay day really isn't a good example.  He's said that take blood drains his energy (which is does).  Like I said, if they test after the bout, the drugs would still be detected if it was there.

Would an Ali, or Fraiser not accept the fight? 
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 03, 2010, 10:21:16 AM
An old fighter past his prime looking for a pay day really isn't a good example.  He's said that take blood drains his energy (which is does).  Like I said, if they test after the bout, the drugs would still be detected if it was there.

Would an Ali, or Fraiser not accept the fight? 

Wouldn't Mayweather's energy be drained too?  :-\
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on May 03, 2010, 10:23:26 AM
Same here. 

Mosley submitted to drug testing. 

My question is, if Mosley did it, and Floyd did it, why is Paquiao refusing?  Why?
That's my question!  If you're not taking any performance enhansing drugs, you will not need time (24 days) to purge them from your system.  Drug testing, in my opinion, seems like a very reasonable request.  Testing after the fight really doesn't do any good, since the drugs have been purged by that time.  The effect of the drugs, however, (increased muscle mass, etc) lasts for years beyond the actual use.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on May 03, 2010, 10:28:53 AM
Wouldn't Mayweather's energy be drained too?  :-\

No necessarily.  Some people can give blood and be ok, while others give it and it may take a week to get back to normal.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on May 03, 2010, 10:54:01 AM
Not necessarily.  Some people can give blood and be ok, while others give it and it may take a week to get back to normal.


...I was going to state the exact same thing.  Everyone's body is different.  Its obvious that Pac isn't taking any PED's because he's agreeing to everything minus the blood work so close to the fight AND they are taking a second blood sample immediately after the fight.

...Mayweather knows how to protect his legacy very well.  ;)   There really isn't anyone left out there that I know of that can beat Mayweather because all of the really good boxers are all way over there prime or up and coming.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on May 03, 2010, 11:15:43 AM
So, they have to give a whole pint of blood to do drug testing?  I thought, at worst, they'd have to fill up a tube.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 03, 2010, 12:05:06 PM
So if the majority is saying "Floyd is dodging", would it be fair to say that Pacman is scared he'd lose after giving blood?
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: Arkhams Finest on May 03, 2010, 12:10:51 PM
So, they have to give a whole pint of blood to do drug testing?  I thought, at worst, they'd have to fill up a tube.

Exactly.

He's not donating blood.  He's giving enough blood to be tested, which is a vial.

I don't see why Pacquiao gets the benefit of the doubt for his ridiculous stance and Mayweather gets accused of ducking. 
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on May 03, 2010, 12:16:08 PM
So if the majority is saying "Floyd is dodging", would it be fair to say that Pacman is scared he'd lose after giving blood?

...well, if I knew that drawing blood would cause me to be weak and would take about 2-3 days for me to recup' and the fight of my career is within 24hrs...  uh yeah, I'd be smart and not do it so close to the fight.  :-\

...that's like Superman flying to save someone in the space station with a kryptonite cape.  Ain't happening jack...  :-\
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: cordney on May 03, 2010, 12:22:42 PM
People dislike Mayweather so much that they'll say anything to discredit what he has done in the ring.  He beats Mosley(soundly) and everyone says, "Mosley is washed up or over the hill...lol."  It's crazy...Mosley was #3 on the pound for pound list!
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: JFunky on May 03, 2010, 12:37:53 PM
People dislike Mayweather so much that they'll say anything to discredit what he has done in the ring.  He beats Mosley(soundly) and everyone says, "Mosley is washed up or over the hill...lol."  It's crazy...Mosley was #3 on the pound for pound list!

...pretty much.  :D ;D :D    Mayweather can box that's for sure.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on May 03, 2010, 12:47:04 PM
If Tiger Woods said "I'm not going to compete until all the Competitors doe this, this and this", or if Federer said "I won't play against Nadal unless this this or this" or the Lakers said, "I won't play the Cavs unless these demands are meet", we'd look at them like they were crazy.

Boxing have rules, regulations, and testing, also the States Athletic Commission does to.  Its not like it's some backyard brawl  Pac is following all those but with Mayweather is imposing his own rules  But since Mayweather IS boxing right now he's basically have the power to do this.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on May 03, 2010, 12:53:22 PM
I really don't see what the big deal is.  If I'm clean and have the opportunity to make mega millions for one night's worth of work, I'd take drug tests, paternity tests, math, science and english tests too!
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 03, 2010, 12:54:14 PM
Either way, if the fight happens Mayweather will win; and if not he's still the better fighter.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on May 03, 2010, 01:02:36 PM
Either way, if the fight happens Mayweather will win; and if not he's still the better fighter.

And I'll agree with that.  Drugs or no drugs for Pac, I think "Money" would win.  He's that much better than everyone out there.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: jjblack on May 03, 2010, 01:04:33 PM
If Tiger Woods said "I'm not going to compete until all the Competitors doe this, this and this", or if Federer said "I won't play against Nadal unless this this or this" or the Lakers said, "I won't play the Cavs unless these demands are meet", we'd look at them like they were crazy.

Boxing have rules, regulations, and testing, also the States Athletic Commission does to.  Its not like it's some backyard brawl  Pac is following all those but with Mayweather is imposing his own rules  But since Mayweather IS boxing right now he's basically have the power to do this.

Boxing is not the same, it is a true contact sport... Getting in there with someone who is "juiced" may cost you your life.

People on top make there own rules in almost all sports:

You can't tell me that Jamario Moon or Sebastian Telfair get the same foul calls that LeBron James does.
Tiger Woods can decide right before a tourney that he wants to enter the event and I bet because of TV revenue amongst other things they let him in.
I bet Brett Favre doesn't show up until after training camp again.


Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on May 03, 2010, 01:08:42 PM
Boxing is not the same, it is a true contact sport... Getting in there with someone who is "juiced" may cost you your life.

Like I said, It is still governed by Boxing (WBC, IBO, ect) AND state Athletic commissions, the same was another contact sport, like football (NFL) is.  Its just not some free for all show up as you are.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 03, 2010, 01:09:16 PM
Boxing is not the same, it is a true contact sport... Getting in there with someone who is "juiced" may cost you your life.

People on top make there own rules in almost all sports:

You can't tell me that Jamario Moon or Sebastian Telfair get the same foul calls that LeBron James does.
Tiger Woods can decide right before a tourney that he wants to enter the event and I bet because of TV revenue amongst other things they let him in.
I bet Brett Favre doesn't show up until after training camp again.



^^^^^^^^
THIS
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: jjblack on May 04, 2010, 06:54:47 AM
LOL poor Nick...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=1000&photoId=2545576 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=1000&photoId=2545576)
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 04, 2010, 07:04:13 AM
LOL poor Nick...

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=1000&photoId=2545576[/url] ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=1000&photoId=2545576[/url])


I saw that yesterday and said the same thing. Nick Cannon can't get any pub even when he's with his wife. WOW
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: mbamoody on May 04, 2010, 07:59:12 AM
Pacman is still playing "Let's Make A Deal"

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5159812 (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5159812)
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: 4hisglory on May 04, 2010, 08:15:30 AM
Quote
Pacman is still playing "Let's Make A Deal"

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5159812[/url] ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=5159812[/url])


"Mosley did what I asked him to do and if every athlete in the sport would do that, we know we would have a clean sport"
-Mayweather



Here is the problem with being bigger than the organization
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: lordluvr on May 04, 2010, 08:43:13 AM
Here is the problem with being bigger than the organization
I understand where you're coming from, but I also see where he's coming from based on the 2nd half of his sentence.  To me, his statement was less about wanting to dictate everything and more about wanting to make sure the playing field was level.  I equate this to Derek Jeter coming out in the 90's and saying, "We need to start testing more aggressively for performance enhancing drugs in our sport.  If every athelete in the sport would do that, we know we would have a clean sport."

Just think of how many scandals would have averted if someone had taken this stance back then.
Title: Re: Boxing: Mosley vs. Mayweather
Post by: T-Block on May 04, 2010, 09:31:32 AM
LOL poor Nick...

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=1000&photoId=2545576[/url] ([url]http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?sportId=1000&photoId=2545576[/url])


WOW, that's a doggone shame.