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Title: Modes and relative minors
Post by: docjohn on June 14, 2009, 04:21:35 PM
How do you apply modes with relative minor chords? For example,Kevin Conleys' "Unlocking the keys"(which is GREAT) uses a 4 chord groove  chromatically starting on F.You could view this as an Ab chord over an F,an F minor 7th/F    Eb,F,Ab,C/F      going to an E G# B D#/E (an E maj7th(?)), Gmin( G Bb C E/G ,and Ab /Ab  .What theory applies here ;or in using modes wih minors? thanks
Title: Re: Modes and relative minors
Post by: funkStrat_97 on June 14, 2009, 07:01:08 PM
How do you apply modes with relative minor chords?

The applicable diatonic mode would be the relative minor scale a.k.a. the Aeolian mode.  If you want to impose a different tonality on the progression, you could use the parallel Dorian mode as an altered minor scale (eg; substitute A Dorian in the place of A Aeolian).  Technically, the parallel Phrygian mode could be used, but it isn't very popular in Western music (that flat 2nd takes some getting used to). 
Title: Re: Modes and relative minors
Post by: csedwards2 on June 23, 2009, 07:38:12 PM
How do you apply modes with relative minor chords? For example,Kevin Conleys' "Unlocking the keys"(which is GREAT) uses a 4 chord groove  chromatically starting on F.You could view this as an Ab chord over an F,an F minor 7th/F    Eb,F,Ab,C/F      going to an E G# B D#/E (an E maj7th(?)), Gmin( G Bb C E/G ,and Ab /Ab  .What theory applies here ;or in using modes wih minors? thanks
having a real problem with the G chord. Either it is a C7/G or, something is spelled wrong, because it just doesnt sound right. HOwever, your question was about scales over these chords. Id use an F minor or F blues or F dorian on the Fminor. E major on the E maj7 chord and Ab major on the Ab chord
Title: Re: Modes and relative minors
Post by: docjohn on June 24, 2009, 06:14:40 AM
thanks cs,I'll look at the G chord when i practice today