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Title: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: mordecai on September 12, 2007, 12:08:39 AM: Most of us have been influenced in someway by Dave. Check out is solo in this segment from the early 90's. The part that amazes me most is around the 7:05 mark. His "ghost note type" fills are ridiculous. Weckl was doing stuff like this 20 years ago. He's nasty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81xPvAruU_k
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: drummin4JC on September 12, 2007, 08:34:26 AM: Quote from: mordecai on September 12, 2007, 12:08:39 AM
Most of us have been influenced in someway by Dave. Check out is solo in this segment from the early 90's. The part that amazes me most is around the 7:05 mark. His "ghost note type" fills are ridiculous. Weckl was doing stuff like this 20 years ago. He's NASTY

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81xPvAruU_k[/url]

nasty is not the word its more like disgusting!!!
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: juSe on September 12, 2007, 02:03:08 PM: Quote from: mordecai on September 12, 2007, 12:08:39 AM
Most of us have been influenced in someway by Dave. Check out is solo in this segment from the early 90's. The part that amazes me most is around the 7:05 mark. His "ghost note type" fills are ridiculous. Weckl was doing stuff like this 20 years ago. He's nasty

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81xPvAruU_k[/url]

Weckl is cool....

But those "ghost not type" fills are just variations of the 5, 7, and 9 stroke rolls. Nothing that you cant do.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 12, 2007, 02:09:39 PM: Quote from: juSe on September 12, 2007, 02:03:08 PM
Weckl is cool....

But those "ghost not type" fills are just variations of the 5, 7, and 9 stroke rolls. Nothing that you cant do.

Yep. I need to see this dude Live. I've heard too many stories and I just want to experience a Dave Weckl Clinic and see the Ghost Notes with my own two eyes and glasses. LOL
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 02:54:19 PM: I didn't know A Customs Were out then!... :-\
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: juSe on September 12, 2007, 02:56:36 PM: Quote from: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 02:54:19 PM
I didn't know A Customs Were out then!... :-\

A Customs aint where it is. I know that the A Customs are the "flavor of the month" on the board... Not too many that I have run across (including my 17" A Custom Fast Crash that I own) float my boat long-term. I will say that the 12" and 13" A Custom Mastersounds are mighty hot.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: soul_drummer on September 12, 2007, 02:59:23 PM: Quote from: juSe on September 12, 2007, 02:56:36 PM
A Customs aint where it is. I know that the A Customs are the "flavor of the month" on the board... Not too many that I have run across (including my 17" A Custom Fast Crash that I own) float my boat long-term. I will say that the 12" and 13" A Custom Mastersounds are mighty hot.

I love the Sabian HHX cymbal line.....smooth as heck...very musical to my ears...I never really digged the A customs...GB
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 03:17:56 PM: Quote from: juSe on September 12, 2007, 02:56:36 PM
A Customs aint where it is. I know that the A Customs are the "flavor of the month" on the board... Not too many that I have run across (including my 17" A Custom Fast Crash that I own) float my boat long-term. I will say that the 12" and 13" A Custom Mastersounds are mighty hot.

I love My Fast Crash But I think that I might give up all my A Customs because they don't float my boat as far a sound either... Love the Hats though.. ;) Im looking into the AAX line Traditional Finish... I don't like the Brilliant Finish AAX's (Too Clangy)
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 12, 2007, 04:12:36 PM: Quote from: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 03:17:56 PM
Im looking into the AAX line Traditional Finish... I don't like the Brilliant Finish AAX's (Too Clangy)

I like the 18" AAX Studio Crash in B.F. I play the 16" AAX Studio Crash in the N.F. The 16" AAX St. Cr. in B.F. sounds funny. IMHO. That's why the Five Star store down here in O-Town only carry the AAX Line crashes in the N.F.

N.F. = Natural Finish

B.F. = Brilliant Finish
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 04:47:53 PM: I do like the 8"AAX splash in the Brilliant Finish though! Lately The Zildjians havent been working for me! Exept for the K's those are Beautiful Pieces of Cast Bronze there..lol..
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: mordecai on September 12, 2007, 04:49:28 PM: Quote from: juSe on September 12, 2007, 02:03:08 PM
Weckl is cool....

But those "ghost not type" fills are just variations of the 5, 7, and 9 stroke rolls. Nothing that you cant do.

It really doesn't matter if I learn how to do it at all, or anyone as a matter of fact. It's just the way in which he does it with such finesse a lot of us who can do that wouldn't be able to replicate the "touch" which Weckl uses. The man is nice and very inventive....who would have thought of that combination of ghost notes on their own in that way?
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: j_kay on September 12, 2007, 05:33:40 PM: Quote from: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 02:54:19 PM
I didn't know A Customs Were out then!... :-\

Yes, man.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 12, 2007, 09:22:25 PM: Quote from: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 02:54:19 PM
I didn't know A Customs Were out then!... :-\

Well now you know......and knowing is half the battle......G.I. Joe.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: dude-on-drums on September 12, 2007, 09:27:49 PM: Quote from: GMS on September 12, 2007, 09:22:25 PM
Well now you know......and knowing is half the battle......G.I. Joe.

...american herooo...
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: bigblackdrummer on September 13, 2007, 08:18:56 AM: I had this video on VHS LOL, that was back when he had just switched to that maple kit and Yamaha started to punk birch!
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: bigblackdrummer on September 13, 2007, 08:21:53 AM: Quote from: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 02:54:19 PM
I didn't know A Customs Were out then!... :-\

A's were new back then, Im a K guy!!!!
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: LDN-DRUMMA on September 13, 2007, 02:59:49 PM: im not an A customs guy either but i try to stay away from this cymbal loyalty buisness and just tend to play what sounds good to my ear, i swear one time my school bought this tama kit and the factory crash it came with you would sware it sounded like any pro cymbal it was beatiful an i never heard anything like it.

;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: yamahaboy on September 14, 2007, 08:47:34 PM: I heard A Customs used to sound better that they do now!.. Does anybody know anything about that?
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: jax19 on September 18, 2007, 08:19:31 PM: oh yeah...i definately like the choice of cymbalz!
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: yamahaboy on September 18, 2007, 09:12:05 PM: Quote from: jax19 on September 18, 2007, 08:19:31 PM
oh yeah...i definately like the choice of cymbalz!

Meh, They sounded good then, but you have to hunt them down like Osama Bin Laden to get a good sounding cymbal!
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 19, 2007, 11:00:52 AM: Quote from: GMS on September 12, 2007, 02:09:39 PM
Yep. I need to see this dude Live. I've heard too many stories and I just want to experience a Dave Weckl Clinic and see the Ghost Notes with my own two eyes and glasses. LOL

Yes you do. It brought another level of respect for him. Live is just...you gotta see it! Best clinic I have ever been to. (ssshhh its the only one I've been too. lol)
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 19, 2007, 11:06:02 AM: LOL....and what a clinic to go to. Dave plays with a lot of emotion and energy. I like that. He's passionate about his playing. Ask Chris Coleman.....he had to say it on his DVD.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 19, 2007, 11:10:38 AM: Quote from: GMS on September 19, 2007, 11:06:02 AM
LOL....and what a clinic to go to. Dave plays with a lot of emotion and energy. I like that. He's passionate about his playing. Ask Chris Coleman.....he had to say it on his DVD.

Weckl played on a Black Oak Custom kit. They have it for sale at my drum shop for $1500. He even signed the inside of the shells....Man am I tempted.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: yamahaboy on September 19, 2007, 01:18:29 PM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 19, 2007, 11:10:38 AM
Weckl played on a Black Oak Custom kit. They have it for sale at my drum shop for $1500. He even signed the inside of the shells....Man am I tempted.

DO IT! Experience the true glory of Yamaha!.. :D ;D Man that is a good deal... is it in the Musashi Black finish they just introduce?? Be tempted no more EC just do it! Throw some Emperors on that sucka and you will be gravy! ;) :) ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 19, 2007, 01:38:45 PM: Quote from: yamahaboy on September 19, 2007, 01:18:29 PM

DO IT! Experience the true glory of Yamaha!.. :D ;D Man that is a good deal... is it in the Musashi Black finish they just introduce?? Be tempted no more EC just do it! Throw some Emperors on that sucka and you will be gravy! ;) :) ;D

E-R can't have an Oak kit at his church....that would be disasterous. (sp?)

That would cause the Acoustic Guitar player to leave the church along with many members.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: yamahaboy on September 19, 2007, 02:11:26 PM: Oh, I forgot there church was big!.. No Offense :-\... Those things are very loud man!.. And they are so heavy that they will break through the floor!.. ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 19, 2007, 03:15:14 PM: Quote from: GMS on September 19, 2007, 01:38:45 PM
E-R can't have an Oak kit at his church....that would be disasterous. (sp?)

That would cause the Acoustic Guitar player to leave the church along with many members.

Losing an Acoustic Guitar player would be of no consequence. When you're white, they come a dime a dozen. As far as volume is concerned, I play with Rutes, remember? ;)
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 08:06:05 AM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 19, 2007, 03:15:14 PM
Losing an Acoustic Guitar player would be of no consequence. When you're white, they come a dime a dozen

Very true man, very true....but the one yall lost had that special "Kumba-ya ingredient." Extra Lean White with brocolii (sp?) and special smooth, melty cheese. LOL His strumming was very graceful. Everytime he strummed, White Doves would fly into the clear blue sky. Angels would jump from cloud to cloud. The Sun would show it's rays like in the cartoons.

The new guy that's trying out is into Dave Matthews and the church is a bit upset but the Youth think he's cool. :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 09:53:33 AM: The guy that left...
(http://www.afterhoursdj.net/images/Acoustic%20Dave%207.jpg)

The New Guy...

(http://www.davemilliken.com/Images/Dave%20with%20Yamaha.JPG)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 10:31:43 AM: Alright Mr. Taco, I'd take the strumming over the boom tap tap boom tap tap boom tap tap any day. :D Think about it...if I truly played like all the other white people, and if I really liked that kinda music, do you think you would find me on here?

haha. You crack me up man...you need to hear one of our services. We sing a whole lotta Spanish songs too.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 10:39:35 AM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 10:31:43 AM
Alright Mr. Taco, I'd take the strumming over the boom tap tap boom tap tap boom tap tap any day. :D Think about it...if I truly played like all the other white people, and if I really liked that kinda music, do you think you would find me on here?

haha. You crack me up man...you need to hear one of our services. We sing a whole lotta Spanish songs too.

Dude, Tacos are not a Puerto Rican food and you know that and yes, you all do sing a lot of Spanish songs......Saturday Evenings in the back of the church by the camp fire. Now, go home and tell your wife to make me some enchiladas. I heard she makes the best ones in New Mexico. ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 10:56:04 AM: Quote from: GMS on September 20, 2007, 10:39:35 AM
Dude, Tacos are not a Puerto Rican food and you know that and yes, you all do sing a lot of Spanish songs......Saturday Evenings in the back of the church by the camp fire. Now, go home and tell your wife to make me some enchiladas. I heard she makes the best ones in New Mexico. ;D

LMBO. Camp fire, outside of church? Maybe in Florida, thats against city ordinance over here. I was trying to speak BBD's language. He has the common misconception that Taco's are the food of choice for any and all Spanish speaking people. lol.

Estas hablando la verdad. Mi esposa coce la mas mejor honduranian enchiladas del todo Nuevo Mexico. ;)
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 11:04:39 AM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 10:56:04 AM
LMBO. Camp fire, outside of church? Maybe in Florida, thats against city ordinance over here. I was trying to speak BBD's language. He has the common misconception that Taco's are the food of choice for any and all Spanish speaking people. lol.

Estas hablando la verdad. Mi esposa coce la mas mejor honduranian enchiladas del todo Nuevo Mexico. ;)

Coce?? Que es eso? ?/? ;D Nosotros decimos cocina. Muy bien. Dile que me cocine 6. ;D

Feliz Mes de los Latinos.....Gringo. LOL
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 11:23:50 AM: Quote from: GMS on September 20, 2007, 11:04:39 AM
Coce?? Que es eso? ?/? ;D Nosotros decimos cocina. Muy bien. Dile que me cocine 6. ;D

Feliz Mes de los Latinos.....Gringo. LOL

perdoname hermano. ;D revicion: "Mi esposa cocina/prepara la mas mejor honduranian enchiladas del todo Nuevo Mexico"

Coce es un dialecto nuevo mexicano.

quiere 6? un panza llena y corazon contenta. :D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 11:33:55 AM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 11:23:50 AM
perdoname hermano. ;D revicion: "Mi esposa cocina/prepara la mas mejor honduranian enchiladas del todo Nuevo Mexico"

Coce es un dialecto nuevo mexicano.

quiere 6? un panza llena y corazon contenta. :D

You bum, lol.....there you go...."panza"???? On the East Coast it's estomago or barriga. LOL Oh well, I want six. I love chicken enchiladas. Do you guys have Tijuana Flats???
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: sjonathan02 on September 20, 2007, 11:37:55 AM: ANGLISH, SPEAKA DEY ANGLISH........

YO!! >:( :-\

Ya'll are crackin' me up ova hea!! :D ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 11:42:02 AM: LOL. Sjon....just tell your CoWorker Spanish Teacher to help you out since you obviously took English as your Foreign Language. :-\ ?/? ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 11:44:46 AM: Quote from: GMS on September 20, 2007, 11:33:55 AM
You bum, lol.....there you go...."panza"???? On the East Coast it's estomago or barriga. LOL Oh well, I want six. I love chicken enchiladas. Do you guys have Tijuana Flats???

You Puerto Ricans and your dialect. lol. It amazes me how much difference there is with the words that can be used in Spanish. A honduranian enchilada is what a New Mexican would consider a Tostada. Chicken Enchiladas is definitely a New Mexican dish. Tijuana Flat? Haven't heard of that. Probably known as a different name over here. What about Pupusa's?

Sorry Sjon. ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 11:48:45 AM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 11:44:46 AM
You Puerto Ricans and your dialect. lol. It amazes me how much difference there is with the words that can be used in Spanish. A honduranian enchilada is what a New Mexican would consider a Tostada. Chicken Enchiladas is definitely a New Mexican dish. Tijuana Flat? Haven't heard of that. Probably known as a different name over here. What about Pupusa's?

Sorry Sjon. ;D ;D

http://www.tijuanaflats.com/
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 12:15:14 PM: Quote from: GMS on September 20, 2007, 11:48:45 AM

[url]http://www.tijuanaflats.com/[/url]

Never heard of them. Look good though, The best ones over here are the Ma and Pa joints!
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: sjonathan02 on September 20, 2007, 12:23:39 PM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 11:44:46 AM
You Puerto Ricans and your dialect. lol. It amazes me how much difference there is with the words that can be used in Spanish. A honduranian enchilada is what a New Mexican would consider a Tostada. Chicken Enchiladas is definitely a New Mexican dish. Tijuana Flat? Haven't heard of that. Probably known as a different name over here. What about Pupusa's?

Sorry Sjon. ;D ;D

BANGIN'!!!!!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 12:26:23 PM: Quote from: sjonathan02 on September 20, 2007, 12:23:39 PM

BANGIN'!!!!!!! :D :D :D

lol. its not a dirty word. I promise!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupusa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupusa)
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 01:16:44 PM: ...so anyway, I truly believe that the Oak Kit that Dave Weckl signed is at a very good price point signed or not. I mean Steve Gadd's kit is going for $9,000. Dave Weckl signed an Oak kit and it's $1,500. That's pretty good IMHO. :-\
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: sjonathan02 on September 20, 2007, 01:24:54 PM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 12:26:23 PM
lol. its not a dirty word. I promise!
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupusa[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupusa[/url])

I know! I was saying that I love Pupusas!!!
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 01:25:00 PM: Quote from: GMS on September 20, 2007, 01:16:44 PM
...so anyway, I truly believe that the Oak Kit that Dave Weckl signed is at a very good price point signed or not. I mean Steve Gadd's kit is going for $9,000. Dave Weckl signed an Oak kit and it's $1,500. That's pretty good IMHO. :-\

But its too loud for my Bluegrass chu'uch. ;D ;D ;D ;D

We'll see what happens...I might pick it up. I definitely agree that its a great deal.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 02:11:32 PM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 01:25:00 PM
But its too loud for my Bluegrass chu'uch. ;D ;D ;D ;D

LMBO. Bluegrass....I forgot all about that Genre. :-[ ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 02:28:32 PM: Quote from: GMS on September 20, 2007, 02:11:32 PM
LMBO. Bluegrass....I forgot all about that Genre. :-[ ;D ;D ;D

I wish we all could. LoL. ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 02:30:18 PM: Quote from: sjonathan02 on September 20, 2007, 01:24:54 PM

I know! I was saying that I love Pupusas!!!

Man, you'ze aiight in my book! ;D
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: JFunky on September 20, 2007, 02:31:40 PM: Quote from: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 02:28:32 PM
I wish we all could. LoL. ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'd rather sing the campfire songs with you guys, really. :-\
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: Eccentric-Rhythm on September 20, 2007, 02:38:43 PM: Quote from: GMS on September 20, 2007, 02:31:40 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'd rather sing the campfire songs with you guys, really. :-\

Are you jealous that in Florida, ya'll can't go camping? You can go swamping though, right? haha. Alright, I'm gonna have to send some mp3's your way.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: sugabear on September 20, 2007, 03:14:46 PM: Quote from: yamahaboy on September 12, 2007, 03:17:56 PM

I love My Fast Crash But I think that I might give up all my A Customs because they don't float my boat as far a sound either... Love the Hats though.. ;) Im looking into the AAX line Traditional Finish... I don't like the Brilliant Finish AAX's (Too Clangy)

That'll preach! A man after my own heart. I absolutely love the AAX's in traditional finish.
Title: Re: This is why Weckl will always be one of the greats.
Post by: yamahaboy on September 21, 2007, 10:24:06 AM: Yeah they sound pretty man! They are smooth and not clangy like the Brilliant AAX's. They sound great! I do like the Stage Ride in brilliant finish though! It is very controlled!