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Gospel Instruments => Organ Room => Topic started by: diverse379 on April 15, 2007, 05:40:40 AM
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I am not what i would consider a great oganist but i am definitely developing
I was moved this weekend to spend some extra time on my A100 because normally it just collects dust
anyway i discovered some things i havent noticed before
first of all when you learn a song on the piano there are rhythmic devices you use and certain chord structures
well there are also some certain chord structures that work on the piano that dont sound that great on the organ
i was playing a song by israel called your name is great
and i began to alter the left hand to accomodate the organ style
first lets look at some rhythmic devices
because of the restraints of this site i cannot put in music notation or maybe i can i have to see
but for now lets just count 12 12 1 212 12 1212
and put your left hand chord on the 2 at all times dont waiver
i am not saying to always play like this but you need to learn how to keep the left hand steady and this is he best way to start
ok now to the chords
the first two chords in the song go from a C chord to an E7 chord
so I put a Bb E going to DG# these are the tritones that are associatied with these two chords
the next two chords are F7 so I played EbA
so what I have done is played tritones in my left hand to work with the chords of the song
and this is the first step in creating organ parts and patterns
The turn around
all songs have turnarounds and they should sound as interesting as possible
the chors weee Bb7 A7 D7 G7 C7
I chose to upgrade the tritones to jazz blues voicngs
Bb7=AbDG-Bb13
A7=GC#F=A7B13
D7=F#CF+D7#9
G7=FBEb=G7b13
C7=EBbD=C9
now normally i never played these chords this way but they work and part of playing organ is stretching out
finding new ideas
so if you know a little chord theory and know a few voicings you can play partial chords in your left hand or you can play complete chords in your left hand
i am moving toward having my left hand being able to stand on its own
without too much help from the right
I will begin to post any new developments on organ technique that I get
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hey d,i was trying this sun pm-what chords sre are you playing in the right hand? some really cool stuff for lefty! as always man-you share good stuff be blessed
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hey d,i was trying this sun pm-what chords sre are you playing in the right hand? some really cool stuff for lefty! as always man-you share good stuff be blessed
thanks a lot Doc john
for the compliment.
I always share whatever i discover.
but on to you question
I was doing two things on this progression
one i was soloing using the C blues scale
and also chording the melody
i think over the C7 to Ez I just was using permutations of Eb and C minor chords in the right
the second thing i did was play the melody that went with this section of the song
the chord progression came from israel and new breed your name is great
but they used simpler chords
it was the part where they go your name is great oh lord and greatly to be praised
but i found soloing over these
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nice-try rel't minor scale - perhaps conclude your riff with a MAJ b5 Chord (play 3rd bass instead of 1) and play DOM scale on top. NIce sound ...
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nice-try rel't minor scale - perhaps conclude your riff with a MAJ b5 Chord (play 3rd bass instead of 1) and play DOM scale on top. NIce sound ...
ok so i read this like 100 times and still dont get it
are you saying to play the C natural minor scale
or are you saying to play the A natural minor scale
and then you are saying to play C,D,E,F,G,A,Bb,B scale is that right?
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Note: PJ Morgan said in an interview with Jamal Hartwell that he makes his students play entire songs using ONLY their left hand. :o
That thing is kickin my butt, but you'd be AMAZED at how this will help your left hand!
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I'm confused.
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Welcome to the LGM family "TerryRH"....Be Blessed.
PianoWiz...
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I'm confused.
dont feel bad my posts are tailored for the advanced or intermediate player
who knows theory fairly well
if you really want to know theory then take a look at my earlier posts when i give some real break downs
or check out t block
he gives some really good insights
there are several ways to get knowledge
chord by chord and progression by progression
or song by song
or unlocking the meaning behind the music
they all work it just depends on you and your game
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I will check him out. Thank you.
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This is a good post.
I knew a fine musician from New Jersey who was a member of the Blakely family of COGIC fame in East Chicago, IN. He had a great ear but had some kind of mental problem because he cut-off one of his hands with a saw. He lost his hand but could still play the piano and other keyboards adequately with one hand.
I learned that in fact you can play Gospel accompaniment pretty well with one hand. I started practicing tunes with my left hand only and found it really did improve my development of left-hand inversion and voicing. The right brain has a tendency to be emotional and not intellectual like the left brain. The left hand which it controls tends to be slower than the right hand, however when you isolate the hand it develops quickly.
brother scott
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that is an interesting insight
I have thought about the fact that the right brain which is intuitive
controls the right side of the body
and how could you capitalize on that
you are saying to just simply isolate the left hand and have it play the whole song by itself
I will have to do this more often
i do it at times when learning a song on organ or when reading a piece of difficult music
but I never thought about really shedding the left hand and learning to play as if i didnt have right hand
what would I do how would i comp
how would i treat the rhythymn
would i stride and add a third layer of melody over the oom pah figure
very interesting
I am sure we could all grow a solid left hand if we spent more time playing left hand only solo piano
but please nobody saw off your hand
OUCH