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Gospel Instruments => Gospel Drummers => Topic started by: JFunky on September 26, 2006, 09:05:54 PM
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The Art of Practice: An Excerpt from "Steve Smith: Drumset Technique/History of the U.S. Beat" (Hudson Music DVD)
Developing good practice skills can be an art form in itself. What we practice and how we practice are very important to one’s development as a musician.
What do you practice? This will be different for everyone depending on your stage of musical development and what you currently need in order to move forward. Here are some ideas and recommendations:
1. Practice whatever you need to do a better job on the gigs you are currently playing. You will have some relevant ideas to work on by remembering what songs or feels you had trouble with, listening to a recording of the gig or by using feedback from the other band members.
2. I recommend studying with a good private teacher to learn how to read music, develop good technique, be exposed to interesting ideas and approaches, and to get clear and instant feedback on your progress. By studying with a teacher you can also develop good practice discipline because you’ll need to prepare a weekly lesson.
3. Use your practice time to work on and develop your own ideas.
4. Use your practice time to learn music and prepare for an upcoming gig, session or audition.
5. Work on an idea that interests you that you read about in a magazine or that you hear someone play on a CD, a live gig/clinic or an educational DVD/video.
How do you practice? Here are some practicing principles I use that have helped me continue to grow as a player.
1. Practice Every Day with an occasional day off.
2. Be Organized and Consistent - know what you are going to practice each day and stick to the plan.
3. Use Patience and Take Your Time.
4. Practice Quietly and Slowly. By doing this you gain control at many Volumes and Tempos.
5. Figure out the Stickings and Hand/Foot combinations. With this process you gain an understanding of the information in the idea. With Consistent, Slow and Relaxed practice you allow the information to enter your subconscious.
6. Slowly work out the motions necessary to play the ideas and eventually allow the motions start to "play themselves."
7. Breath slowly, relax and use the practice as a meditation. Develop the habit of playing relaxed, don’t hold tension in your body. Use a mirror to watch your motions.
8. Eventually "hear" the idea in your head and allow your body to respond and play it effortlessly.
9. Practice with Musical Form (e.g. 4 & 8 bar phrases, 12 bar blues, 32 bar AABA song form) , play along with CDs, and practice both with and without a click track.
10. Warm up before the practice session, stop when fatigued.
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That is a great dvd!!
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6. Slowly work out the motions necessary to play the ideas and eventually allow the motions start to "play themselves."
7. Breath slowly, relax and use the practice as a meditation. Develop the habit of playing relaxed, don’t hold tension in your body. Use a mirror to watch your motions.
8. Eventually "hear" the idea in your head and allow your body to respond and play it effortlessly.
It's really good to hear this stuff again. Sometimes we'll forget things that we know we should do and fall into bad habits.
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I had this discussion just last night about structural practice sessions it's so imperative to the magnitude of elevation… Great share Jfunky. *Nearly 30 views and only 2 replies.
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I paid $49.99 for this DVD and I still have not regretted it. It was worth the investment. There is alot of educational historical material. Plus is has nice special features and plenty examples of the different styles of music.
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6. Slowly work out the motions necessary to play the ideas and eventually allow the motions start to "play themselves."
7. Breath slowly, relax and use the practice as a meditation. Develop the habit of playing relaxed, don’t hold tension in your body. Use a mirror to watch your motions.
8. Eventually "hear" the idea in your head and allow your body to respond and play it effortlessly.
It's really good to hear this stuff again. Sometimes we'll forget things that we know we should do and fall into bad habits.
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These are some of the principles of Effortless Mastery.
In all you getting get understanding... The people that have risen to greatness in our craft and others are those that have mastered what they do. Hint, Hint... Master Studies I and II should be a regular part of your study/practice time if you claim to be serious about the drumset. Why half heartedly do anything?
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These are some of the principles of Effortless Mastery.
In all you getting get understanding... The people that have risen to greatness in our craft and others are those that have mastered what they do. Hint, Hint... Master Studies I and II should be a regular part of your study/practice time if you claim to be serious about the drumset. Why have ehartedlyt do anything?
ehartedlyt? WHOA?!?! :D
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Sorry... fat fingered the keyboard... supposed to be half-heartedly
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I had this discussion just last night about structural practice sessions it's so imperative to the magnitude of elevation… Great share Jfunky. *Nearly 30 views and only 2 replies.
...it's okay Cherri. This isn't for everybody. Just those who want to expand their horizons but need someone to guide them out the front door.
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It's a shame that this is being over-looked by so many members!
If you don't want to be a real musician, then just QUIT! I'm forever bothered by guys who claim they want to get better, but only want to jam with their friends ... trading licks. That's fine, but that's not practicing. Anything that requires any type of discipline is passed over for the sensational(Fills that can be learned in a week, to use at church on Sunday).
Unfortunately, this problem will not be solved, 'cause you now have avenues for people who prefer to take that route...
Ummm...
Hate to say this, but gospelchops.com(Sorry Gerald, but I've held this back for a while...) is a part of the problem. Guys get the wrong impression when they go to that site. It ought to be made known that fills & flash aren't the end all and be all of music. They're not even close to be the most important part, but sites dedicated to that, will lead many down the path of incorrect thinking. It reminds me of AND1 basketball. Impressionable kids don't even want to take the time learn the fundamentals of the game ... but, they'll definitely take the time to learn to wrap the ball around someone's head, or dribble it in between their legs and around someone's back.
We need to stop this mess, for real. Do you want to be Showtime, or do you want to MUSICIAN with showmanship? Nothing wrong with showmanship, but if your foundation is built on that - you will forever have to come up with new ways to entertain, because the "Oooooweeee" crowd hates repetitiveness. Once you cease to wow them, you're forgotten, for the next new-jack with a hot new back of tricks...
Musicians play for the music. Halftime shows are of secondary importance to the actual game....
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YEA this a great thread mann thanks alot yo!!
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Good words there meastro ;)
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"...SPLASH !!!!!!!" some where in the deep waters off the coast.
Div, straight forth as usual but very well said. I hop folks take it for the truth it is and not the emotion that it stirs.
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It's a shame that this is being over-looked by so many members!
If you don't want to be a real musician, then just QUIT! I'm forever bothered by guys who claim they want to get better, but only want to jam with their friends ... trading licks. That's fine, but that's not practicing. Anything that requires any type of discipline is passed over for the sensational(Fills that can be learned in a week, to use at church on Sunday).
Unfortunately, this problem will not be solved, 'cause you now have avenues for people who prefer to take that route...
Ummm...
Hate to say this, but gospelchops.com(Sorry Gerald, but I've held this back for a while...) is a part of the problem. Guys get the wrong impression when they go to that site. It ought to be made known that fills & flash aren't the end all and be all of music. They're not even close to be the most important part, but sites dedicated to that, will lead many down the path of incorrect thinking. It reminds me of AND1 basketball. Impressionable kids don't even want to take the time learn the fundamentals of the game ... but, they'll definitely take the time to learn to wrap the ball around someone's head, or dribble it in between their legs and around someone's back.
We need to stop this mess, for real. Do you want to be Showtime, or do you want to MUSICIAN with showmanship? Nothing wrong with showmanship, but if your foundation is built on that - you will forever have to come up with new ways to entertain, because the "Oooooweeee" crowd hates repetitiveness. Once you cease to wow them, you're forgotten, for the next new-jack with a hot new back of tricks...
Musicians play for the music. Halftime shows are of secondary importance to the actual game....
Preach!
I'm trying to teach two kids in my church how to play (so that I can move over to the Organ), and made the mistake of listing Gospelchops as one of the sites they should check out.
big mistake. ::)
Instead of it inspiring them to be better, it got them into a "show me that lick" mode.
If they see me do something in church, they come and ask me to show them, and I refuse ONLY because I know they don't know the BASICS yet. I still have to correct them on their grip ("You're holding the stick too tight. Let it rebound.").
Having a thousand licks won't help you if you don't know where to place them, and how to do them CLEANLY.
That's another thing I see. They'll be like: "Robert, look at this...." Then they do a cool fill, but they do it SLOPPY.
I told my sister (one of the people I'm training) on Sunday that she needs to go home and just practice Single strokes. Not paradiddles, not Flamacues, not even doubles.....Just singles. Keep your stick height even. Get it smooth. She looked at me like :-\ ?/? ::)
What sense does it make to give a 10yr old a Ferrari? Can they take full advantage of it? :-X
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...hey yall, let's not get the thread locked. Flat-Fifth did his site with the mindset that he wanted to teach. Now, if the drummers selected didn't know "what" or "how" to teach, that's a different story. Let's be clear with that.
...now, I really love what I'm reading. Maestro, you are definetly on "Another Level".
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...hey yall, let's not get the thread locked. Flat-Fifth did his site with the mindset that he wanted to teach. Now, if the drummers selected didn't know "what" or "how" to teach, that's a different story. Let's be clear with that.
...now, I really love what I'm reading. Maestro, you are definetly on "Another Level".
J, I understand what you're saying. Perhaps I was just a tad bit on the emotional side this morning. I think I've just had enough of the "ooooweee" generation. People always say, "They'll learn better as they get older..." The Devil is a Black-Faced liar! I see guys older than me with the same mentality. Kids are not incapable of understanding ... however, if we allow them to think this is the right way to approach the music, then they will continue on that path. It's easy ... it's fun ....
.... that's what kids want. It's up to the older generation, as their musical parents, to let them know right from wrong.
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J, I understand what you're saying. Perhaps I was just a tad bit on the emotional side this morning. I think I've just had enough of the "ooooweee" generation. People always say, "They'll learn better as they get older..." The Devil is a Black-Faced liar! I see guys older than me with the same mentality. Kids are not incapable of understanding ... however, if we allow them to think this is the right way to approach the music, then they will continue on that path. It's easy ... it's fun ....
.... that's what kids want. It's up to the older generation, as their musical parents, to let them know right from wrong.
Train up a child in the way they SHOULD GO and they will not depart from it...
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...hey yall, let's not get the thread locked. Flat-Fifth did his site with the mindset that he wanted to teach. Now, if the drummers selected didn't know "what" or "how" to teach, that's a different story. Let's be clear with that.
...now, I really love what I'm reading. Maestro, you are definetly on "Another Level".
There's nothing wrong with GospelChops......if you approach it the right way. It's educational.
The vids by Yaahn Hunter, Demiyon Hall, Carlin Muccular, and especially Randy Gallerin were beneficial.
The problem lies when you try to learn all those licks without a FOUNDATION. Even the most musical of drummers have super cool licks. They just use them judiciously.
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There's nothing wrong with GospelChops......if you approach it the right way. It's educational.
The vids by Yaahn Hunter, Demiyon Hall, Carlin Muccular, and especially Randy Gallerin were beneficial.
The problem lies when you try to learn all those licks without a FOUNDATION. Even the most musical of drummers have super cool licks. They just use them judiciously.
Nothing is wrong with GospelChops in itself.
I think the point being made is that the explainations for the most part lack that foundation. Randy's clip by far is the most instructional foundationally to the instrument.
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...here are my 2 cents on this:
...the very first drum clinic that I went to was conducted by the Master himself, Steve Smith, in 2002. When I saw how he was moving around his lovely white pearl Sonor Kit ;D, "Effortlessly" without doing any weird movements or what not, I was like; Oh man! Wow! I want to look like that when I play. Then as he continued and I heard how he was pulling the sound out of his kit I was like; Oh snap! I want my drums to sound like that!
...then he hit all of the drummers in the crowd with this: "I recommend every drummer in this building to get with a teacher and learn your craft. If you've studied with a teacher, find a mentor. I'm older now and I still have mentors and teachers."
...I was like, "Whoa"! This guy is insane. What more could he want? But watching his playing and the way he applies Freddie Gruber's teachings to his playing is beautiful.
...We as drummers in general have to accept fundamentals but we need someone to teach us those fundamentals. If you want to learn, the material is there but you will need a teacher. If you don't, then you will struggle and keep on struggling until you figure it out.
Sidenote:
...I myself don't have a teacher yet, but I do have about 3 mentors who know what they're talking about and have the background to prove it. ;)
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Nothing is wrong with GospelChops in itself.
I think the point being made is that the explainations for the most part lack that foundation. Randy's clip by far is the most instructional foundationally to the instrument.
Yea, we're saying the same thing here.
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"...SPLASH !!!!!!!" some where in the deep waters off the coast.
...Yeah, I think you're right man. It'll wash up on the shores of Aruba 20 yrs. from now. ;)
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Digested...
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Yea i think Imma go get that video..seems to be very cool....
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yea, the video is great...but the last time some chumps broke into my house, they took off with it..it would have been better to take my microwave than that vid!!!!....sorry punks...but I bet their becoming better drummers....
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...My New Year's Resolution is to stick to what Steve has stated. I'm combining this with Chris Colemans "ABC Method".
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this is an excellent post. 5 stars!!!!! :)
Div you made some great points! right on the money with this one J!