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Title: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: Muziqmann on August 31, 2006, 12:46:12 PM
I believe this qustion was asked already, but I can't find it. I am counting to see how many I know right now. so how many can you name.  Please spell them out as well. Thanx.
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: 4hisglory on September 06, 2006, 07:55:00 AM
There are 5 located in the piano section of this website.

http://www.learngospelmusic.com/piano/

Click 'Scales'.
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: 4hisglory on September 25, 2006, 08:25:57 PM
Actually, I've been thinking about this and the real question is...How many scales can you use.
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: rspindy on October 21, 2006, 01:24:31 PM
Here's a link to the Jazz Handbook on the Jamie Aebersold web-site:

http://aebersold.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=JAZZ&Category_Code=_HANDBOOK (http://aebersold.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=JAZZ&Category_Code=_HANDBOOK)

The Scale Syllabus enumerates a large number of scales and the types of chords for which they are used.  I actually went through them one day (I was bored) and noted the similarities and realized that they can actually be narrowed down to a few basic scales with minor variations, based on the chord alterations.

There is also a "Dominant 7th Tree of Scale Choices" that gives ideas how the various scales are used with the various alterations of 7th chords.

The page has a lot of other great freebies that can help.
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: Ladymusic88 on November 08, 2006, 01:02:15 AM
Here's a link to the Jazz Handbook on the Jamie Aebersold web-site:

[url]http://aebersold.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=JAZZ&Category_Code=_HANDBOOK[/url] ([url]http://aebersold.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=JAZZ&Category_Code=_HANDBOOK[/url])

The Scale Syllabus enumerates a large number of scales and the types of chords for which they are used.  I actually went through them one day (I was bored) and noted the similarities and realized that they can actually be narrowed down to a few basic scales with minor variations, based on the chord alterations.

There is also a "Dominant 7th Tree of Scale Choices" that gives ideas how the various scales are used with the various alterations of 7th chords.

The page has a lot of other great freebies that can help.

What a wealth of info!

Thanks!
Be Blessed!
Ladymusic88
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: Muziqmann on December 15, 2006, 06:25:13 PM
Actually, I've been thinking about this and the real question is...How many scales can you use.

Yes, I agree.  It is not the scale, but the application there of.  Knowledge you can't use is useless, and there is no need in having it,
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: Maestro87 on December 31, 2006, 01:34:27 PM
I can name all of the keys and play them but it will take me too long to spell them out.

Major: C G D A E B F# C# F Bb Eb Ab Db Gb Cb and all of their inharmonice spellings and whole tone scales
Minor: a e b f# c# d   a# d  g   c   f   bb eb ab including harmonic, melodic, and natural minor scales
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: musallio on December 27, 2007, 10:52:01 AM
I can name all of the keys and play them but it will take me too long to spell them out.

Major: C G D A E B F# C# F Bb Eb Ab Db Gb Cb and all of their inharmonice spellings and whole tone scales
Minor: a e b f# c# d   a# d  g   c   f   bb eb ab including harmonic, melodic, and natural minor scales

Ok, so where do I use all these scales ?/?

I know I can use the  minor harmonic (c) ?/? for songs such as : Our God Is An Awesome God He Reigns.
the major scale 4 95% of the songs.
The blues for some foot-stomping, hand clapping songs..
but what about the other 1s?
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: jjjoe on January 02, 2008, 07:03:26 PM
Do you know that you can play 7 different scales by just inverting the major scale they call these modes of the scale which is use in gospel, jazz, blues and etc.
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: B3Wannabe on January 02, 2008, 11:21:49 PM
I can use all the modes. I'm not as good with arpeggios yet.
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: T-Block on January 03, 2008, 09:05:47 AM
I can use all the modes. I'm not as good with arpeggios yet.

Me 2, I'm really gonna work on playing arpeggios more smoother this year cuz this classical music I'm playing in school is chock full of them.
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: musallio on January 03, 2008, 05:22:36 PM
Wow..
I've been trying without success to use other modes but am failing.
How do U go  about it?

Does it apply to specific songs or can any mode be used in any song?
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: T-Block on January 03, 2008, 05:56:40 PM
Wow..
I've been trying without success to use other modes but am failing.
How do U go  about it?

Does it apply to specific songs or can any mode be used in any song?

The key is practicing the major scale starting and ending on each note.  You can use the same fingering or you can come up with different fingering, it doesn't really matter.  Example:

C major scale / Ionian mode:  C  D  E  F  G  A  B   C
                                        1  2  3  1  2  3  4   5/1

C major scale starting on D / Dorian mode:  D  E  F  G  A  B  C  D
                                                           2  3  1  2  3  4  1   2

C major scale starting on E / Phrigian mode:  E  F  G  A  B  C  D  E
                                                            3  1   2  3  4  1  2  3

C major scale starting on F / Lydian mode:  F  G  A  B  C  D  E   F
                                                          1   2  3  4  1  2  3  1/4

C major scale starting on G / Mixolydian mode:  G  A  B  C  D  E   F    G
                                                                2  3  4  1  2  3  1/4  2/5

C major scale starting on A / Aeolian (minor) mode:  A  B  C  D  E  F  G  A
*also the A minor scale                                       3  4  1   2  3  1  2  3

C major scale starting on B / Locrian mode:  B  C  D  E  F  G  A  B
                                                           4   1  2  3  1  2  3  4

You see that?  Notice that each of those scales is the C major scale and that each scale uses the same fingering as the normal C major scale.  The only thing changing is the starting and ending notes.  If you look at it like that, modes will be a sinch to use.

Based on the explanation above, any mode can be used in any song.  It all depends on what sound you want, where u are in the music, and where u trying to go.
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: B3Wannabe on January 03, 2008, 07:47:01 PM
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,30047.0.html
Title: Re: How Many Scales Do You Know/ Can You Name?
Post by: musallio on January 03, 2008, 07:51:35 PM
i UNDERSTAND THE MODED T-Block,
I guess what I need is to see the application, say of Amimor in a popular song.

or say Amazing Grace played in the key of C in the 7th mode or 4th.
thanx.