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Main => Gospel Music Lounge => Topic started by: itsallpeach on January 18, 2006, 09:52:38 AM
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Will someone please ask Daddy (God) to slow the roll for a minute? My goodness! Last night, while we were getting ready to start play rehearsal, Pastor asked me to do a special project for Men's Month (May) this year. He wants the men of the church to do a small production on the Men of the Bible....written and directed by yours truly, of course. I gave him the usual stalling phrase "give me a minute to pray about it and get past Choir Day", and he said "Choir Day is in April and Men's Month is in May". Could that be his way of saying "work now...pray later" - who knows?
Anyway, in the shower this morning God gave me the title "A Man After God's Own Heart", which would portray various characters of the Bible and relate them to men of today and feature our boy David as the star of the show teaching other men how they can be men "after God's Own Heart".
BUT I NEED SOME GROUP PARTICIPATION HERE (from Bboy and the other scholars). I hate common, routine things and am trying to steer clear of Abraham, Noah, and Sampson. Can you guys recommend someone else? You don't have to tell me the stories....just point me to a chapter and verse and I'll do the research and ask you any questions afterwards (unless you just can't hold your peace).
IF YOU ARE NOT A SCHOLAR....please answer this question for me. What do YOU think today's men could do to become men after God's own heart?
Everyone who says "anything" is going to be mentioned in my "thank-you's" on the program.
NOW...that makes a Youth Explosion in JAN, a play in FEB, the all-original concert in MAR, choir day with Dianne in APR, and now another production in MAY......a larger than life production in AUG with a repeat performance in another city in SEP.....mass choir annual concert in OCT....and the big Christmas play in DEC. IMAGINE THAT!
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Paul the Apostle (pretty much Acts chapter 8 through Titus)
King David (1st and 2nd Samuel)
King Solomon (1 Kings 3 and Proverbs)
Moses (1st five books)
Jehoshaphat (1 and 2 Chronicles)
Timothy (1st and 2nd Timothy)
Jesus Christ obviously (New Testament, especially Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John)
12 Disciples (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John)
12 Apostles (Book of Acts)
Jonah (The book of Jonah)
Jeremiah (The book of Jeremiah)
Nehemiah (The book of Nehemiah)
Just to name a few men
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BIG QUESTION
(God, please let Bboy read this!)
If we're doing Men of the Bible, is it an INSULT if Jesus is not one of them? Especially if the title is "Men After God's Own Heart". I'm stumped on that one!
Some men in the Bible made the same mistakes that we make today and overcame them in their quest to please God more so than self or other people. David will likely be the "star of the show" so to speak but there are others. But these men give us something to strive for that we can actually do. Being "just like Jesus" sounds good in a song and we all should strive....but some people are so far away from there....that they don't even see it as being humanly possible. I want to portray regular men who lived in that time who did all they could to live an honorable life before God or men who sinned and found forgiveness in the worst of circumstances. But I don't want to insult the Holy Spirit by not making Jesus one of those men.
What is a brutha to do?
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I would go to ACTS.... Peter, the boldest of the Apostles, I like the story of him praying on the roof and him torn about the idea of taking the gospel to the gentiles. Paul who was Saul and his conversion after he was smote of the horse. Let us not forget Job and his dedication to serving God. Isaiah 6:1-8 where the angel touched his lips with the coal and took his iniquity away.
That's all I can think of at the moment
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BIG QUESTION
(God, please let Bboy read this!)
If we're doing Men of the Bible, is it an INSULT if Jesus is not one of them? Especially if the title is "Men After God's Own Heart". I'm stumped on that one!
Some men in the Bible made the same mistakes that we make today and overcame them in their quest to please God more so than self or other people. David will likely be the "star of the show" so to speak but there are others. But these men give us something to strive for that we can actually do. Being "just like Jesus" sounds good in a song and we all should strive....but some people are so far away from there....that they don't even see it as being humanly possible. I want to portray regular men who lived in that time who did all they could to live an honorable life before God or men who sinned and found forgiveness in the worst of circumstances. But I don't want to insult the Holy Spirit by not making Jesus one of those men.
What is a brutha to do?
You have to remember Jesus IS God. When Jesus told the Apostles in Matthew 28 to go baptising in THE NAME of the Father, and in THE NAME of the Son and in THE NAME of the Holy Ghost, that is what they did in Acts.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in THE NAME of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
They had the understanding that Jesus was THAT NAME of all. They carried out the instructions of Jesus rather than just repeat what Jesus told them to do.
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Peach,
I don't think you would be excluding Jesus, because I'm sure that in the stories of these men, Jesus will play an important role, but more the divine aspect of him rather than from the human standpoiint. I like Kad's suggestion of the Peter story, and the Isaiah one.
I'm praying for you, I hope you haven't taken on more than you can handle, but I know God will be your help, and I pray that he send you some capable hands to lighten the load.
God bless.
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Jacob (Book of Genesis)
Moses (Book of Genesis)
Joseph (Book of Genesis)
Job (Book of Job)
Daniel (Book of Daniel)
Just some of interest
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Churchyreal gave some good ones but one OT character that I like that not many people read about it Mordecai from the Book of Esther. Check him out.
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To "Jmanley1116", can you give a quick background on who Mordecai is?
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Yeah...can you write Mordechai's part for me dude!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Is there a man in the Bible who was delivered from homosexuality or Inclusionism (that was a joke y'all....too much sugar in my coffee...overlook me)?
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What about Stephen (who was stoned)
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What about Stephen (who was stoned)
You could reenact the scene. Not all of it, but the gist of it.
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Yeah...can you write Mordechai's part for me dude!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Is there a man in the Bible who was delivered from homosexuality or Inclusionism (that was a joke y'all....too much sugar in my coffee...overlook me)?
Mordecai resided is Susa which is outside of Persia. He adopted his cousing who was Esther and bought her up as his own daughter. She was orphaned at an early age. Esther was bought up in the King's Harem and was made Queen after the former Queen was disposed of (long story). Mordecai was promoted to a very high office by the King. During his stay in office he discoved a plot be the eunuchs to put the king to death and was able to foil the plot.
Haman, who was raised to the highest position in King Ahasuerus' court he dispised Haaman for being a Jew with favor with the King and devised a plot to rid him by scheming against all Jews in the kingdom. Mordecai again heard of the plot and communicated it to the Queen who was his adopted daughter who then told the King.
Haman built gallows that were to be used to kill Moredcai and the Jews but was in turn killed in those same gallows that he built for those he hated.
There is more to the story but that is the jist of it.
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Well, Peach, you may as well go ahead and sign yourself up for monthly Massage therapy now...You booked yourself for the entire year. You gotta think though, why does the pastor always ask YOU? (Maybe because you're the most dependable person?) :) A blessing and a curse.
I can't remember the guy's name in the Bible, but he was checking out this other guy's wife while she was out in a forier (or something) and he sent the woman's hubby off to war so that he'd be killed and then he could covet the guy's wife as his own. Somebody help me out here, brain fart! What's his name???
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Well, Peach, you may as well go ahead and sign yourself up for monthly Massage therapy now...You booked yourself for the entire year. You gotta think though, why does the pastor always ask YOU? (Maybe because you're the most dependable person?) :) A blessing and a curse.
I can't remember the guy's name in the Bible, but he was checking out this other guy's wife while she was out in a forier (or something) and he sent the woman's hubby off to war so that he'd be killed and then he could covet the guy's wife as his own. Somebody help me out here, brain fart! What's his name???
.......Who is King David?
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Well, Peach, you may as well go ahead and sign yourself up for monthly Massage therapy now...You booked yourself for the entire year. You gotta think though, why does the pastor always ask YOU? (Maybe because you're the most dependable person?) :) A blessing and a curse.
I can't remember the guy's name in the Bible, but he was checking out this other guy's wife while she was out in a forier (or something) and he sent the woman's hubby off to war so that he'd be killed and then he could covet the guy's wife as his own. Somebody help me out here, brain fart! What's his name???
.......Who is King David?
I'll take Biblical quotes and sayings for $1000, Alex. :lol:
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Lady P, I can't believe you didn't recognize "the star of the show"...the man after God's own heart! You gotta go back to Bible Study before we say "I do" (or in this case, I MIGHT). :lol:
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I love the Stephen idea. I want one of our deacons to play him and let me be the stoner. Can I use real rocks? PLEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!
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Lady P, I can't believe you didn't recognize "the star of the show"...the man after God's own heart! You gotta go back to Bible Study before we say "I do" (or in this case, I MIGHT). :lol:
:roll:
I love the Stephen idea. I want one of our deacons to play him and let me be the stoner. Can I use real rocks? PLEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!
Dude seriously, either do the work (God loves a what kind of giver?), or.....
wait for it.
wait for it.......
Leave. It's what I did. Same kinda situation, No movement + no growth of spirit = leave.
But, that's just me.
Glad you like the idea, though. But, leave the real rocks outside. :D
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The Deacon who is President of the "I Hate Herman" club and the one who initiated the whole "He can't be Minister of Music and on payroll because he's Pastor's grandson", and the co-signer of the "why pay a recording artist to sing for God when people are supposed to do that for free" campaign......would be perfect for Stephen! And I'd be the perfect stoner!
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The Deacon who is President of the "I Hate Herman" club and the one who initiated the whole "He can't be Minister of Music and on payroll because he's Pastor's grandson", and the co-signer of the "why pay a recording artist to sing for God when people are supposed to do that for free" campaign......would be perfect for Stephen! And I'd be the perfect stoner!
As stated earlier, I've been there, my brother. That's why I had to leave.
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I know. I guess I'm that man in the bible from a previous post. I'm torn.
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I know. I guess I'm that man in the bible from a previous post. I'm torn.
You probably got Gods sign along time ago but because of family ties you ignored it much like I did when I was at my grandfather's church. My situation wasn't as bad as yours mind you, but still....you have to grow.
If that isn't happening for you then it is time to bounce.
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I know it's time to bounce....but I can't leave my folks!
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I know it's time to bounce....but I can't leave my folks!
There is the problem...it is not God...it is you. Have you ever considered that God cannot do what He needs to do in that church because you are in the way. And, maybe He can't do what He is supposed to do in your life because you are in the way.
You are a playwrite. God could increase your ministry 20 fold if you would step out on Him.
My Pastor always says that if you give it up...you can have it all.
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OUCH!
Maybe it is time for me to walk on the water, but I'm scared to take one foot out the boat!
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I know it's time to bounce....but I can't leave my folks!
There is the problem...it is not God...it is you. Have you ever considered that God cannot do what He needs to do in that church because you are in the way. And, maybe He can't do what He is supposed to do in your life because you are in the way.
You are a playwrite. God could increase your ministry 20 fold if you would step out on Him.
My Pastor always says that if you give it up...you can have it all.
Amen, JManley, Amen!!!
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Well if there's any consolation.....I didn't leave mama's house until I was 28 and a half...and even then it was to go live in sin which I'm still paying for now!
You gotta give me time!
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Well if there's any consolation.....I didn't leave mama's house until I was 28 and a half...and even then it was to go live in sin which I'm still paying for now!
You gotta give me time!
So, that's how you speak to God, "You gotta give me time!" :(
Now, while I'm not saying that any one of us is God, God could be working through us to give you an avenue by which you can talk to him, really talk to him, and do what He's telling you to do.
And, move when HE says move. :D
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OUCH!
Maybe it is time for me to walk on the water, but I'm scared to take one foot out the boat!
Don't step out the boat... LEAP/JUMP/SUMMERSAULT & Hydroplane out the Mugg... ROTFLMBO!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Herman, I told you months ago that you needed to leave... And I'm quite sure that a lot of other people told you the same.. as others are doing so now... I suggest after your schedule is taken care of... Make plans to Make Moves...
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Okay, Mr Playwright . . . here are a couple of men that I love to study and they are always overlooked or not really researched, so we miss out big time:
One is Jephtha from the Book of Judges. He was what we would call today a gang-banger . . . an illegitimate son who, because of his birth, couldn't inherit with the other sons.
But he had great leadership skills, and became a gang-banger. GOD saved him and used those skills to deleiver Israel.
Here is the catch. Jephtha never really got over his insecurities, so he thought he had to make a vow and promise the first thing that came out of his house. GOD didn't require it, Jephtha did because he wanted to make sure GOD was with him. But GOD WAS with him, his vow was rash. Had Jephtha just been delivered from his insecurities, he would have never made the vow!
Bring some background to that story, and you have a great play that could touch many people, young and old alike!
The other is Gideon, also from the Book of Judges. Gideon is always called a coward, but actually that is not at all what his problem was. The enemies were terrorists (also a very contemporary issue) and the people were weak.
Portray Gideon as a young leader who has to battle insecurities, fears, and people who say that they will go with him but leave the minute he calls the fearful to go home.
So, I KNOW you could make these characters three dimensional and just go to town with the play, Bro Peachy!
Also, I like Boaz. An old man, saved and rich, but kind of accepting the fact that true love wouldn't be his so he contents himself as a successful saved businessman. Then, young beautiful Ruth comes into his life. Think Boaz might have had some internal re-adjusting to do to accept the blessing of a young beautiful wife, as old as Boaz was?
That give you any ideas? Let me know what you think!
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Man peach, you gotta give bboy some recognition on your finished product, that was some good stuff! The Jepthah story is a sad tale, though. I guess it's a warning to us about being rash with our vows (wow, i think i just spoke a word to myself), but tragic nonetheless.
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When talking about young leaders I think Joshua and Caleb would be interesting choices. Iinteresting choices in general would be Enoch an Elijah, what a life they had to have lived so that God did not let them see death but took them from where they were. Now thats something to aim at.
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Peach, it looks like you have material to do two productions. Need a lead? :wink:
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What about Stephen (who was stoned)
Very humble as far as what I've read, speaking softly and ripping open the hearts of vipers, and it would be nice to see Saul transformed to Paul as he was the key witness in Stephens' death...peace
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God answers prayer! I asked him to please let Bboy read this, but I really need Bboy's opinion on my main question.
Am I insulting the Holy Spirit by not portraying Jesus as one of the "Men of the Bible"? I say that because you know at the end everyone is expecting him to leave a tomb empty, rise from a cross, feed a multitude or do something.
We have a church full of "do-nothing" men and Pastor has started a new Men's Ministry and wants our men to be "Men After God's Own Heart"....you feel me?
As each man portrays a role, hopefully he will learn something about the character he is portraying that will help him (and those who attend) to overcome their spiritual obstacles and eventually become a "man after God's own heart"....men of strength and valor who don't mind working in church...or going door to door (instead of allowing me and three women to go every month)....men who don't sit around and ask "well whose turn was it to cut the grass....oh well, it'll get cut someday". I want the men of our church and community to witness first-hand how God transformed the lives of these men and used their lives for His glory. I want them to see men in the Bible who trusted God even when the situations did not look favorable (I can hear Dianne singing "how you gonna pay your rent 8O ), but God delivered and changed them for the better. I can hear one of the men talking about the way God changed him (Saul/Paul) and sending the saints under the pews with "I Know I've Been Changed".
I don't want people to leave there saying "Herman really put that thing together" (well, they can say that if they want to)...but I want men to leave there saying...."oh my God something in my life has got to change quickly and pleasing God has got to become my #1 priority starting now!
But if Jesus is not a character (although he will be mentioned through its entirety I'm sure), will that offend people to the point of not being able to receive the message.....making the whole effort be in vain?
I'm really stumped on that element.
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Trust me....if it turns out to be a success, I'm subject to fly Bboy in to play the part of David "the star of the show"...a man after God's own heart!
And in my "thank-you's" he will get his props IF HE AIN'T LISTED AS THE CO-WRITER! Don't play!
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Hmm. The Bible says that the volume of the Book is written of Jesus, so you really can't do any of the men in the Bible unless you glorify Jesus and Jesus' life-changing power.
I don't think it would be disrespectful, because you are not drawing attention to the man . . . you are drawing attention to GOD Who changes men. It isn't like you are doing this the way Hollywood does it . . . they do it by not being faithful to Scripture and putting out a product that everyone will like. You want to wirte a product that glorifies GOD and calls people to read the Bible for themselves.
But what would settle it your heart is if you wrote the rough draft and let your spiritual leadership read it. Just my 2 cents . . .
Be Blessed :D
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My grandfather can preach a message on prosperity or on tithing, but before he ends that message Jesus is going to that cross...even if it does not pertain to the subject matter.
By ROUTINE, we have to include Jesus. He has a slogan....
JESUS...nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else! It's on our t-shirts, worship bulletins, and many times he has the congregation repeat it after him.
He says that while other people preach that you have to speak in tongue...and you have to have this or have to do that, all you really need is Jesus....nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else.
Because of the things he says and my 'funeral parlor' (I mean church body) believe.....that element would have to be present.
But if I could make them get caught up on the POWER of Jesus as they are on the PERSON of Jesus.....it could have a life-changing effect.
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My grandfather can preach a message on prosperity or on tithing, but before he ends that message Jesus is going to that cross...even if it does not pertain to the subject matter.
By ROUTINE, we have to include Jesus. He has a slogan....
JESUS...nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else! It's on our t-shirts, worship bulletins, and many times he has the congregation repeat it after him.
He says that while other people preach that you have to speak in tongue...and you have to have this or have to do that, all you really need is Jesus....nothing more, nothing less, and nothing else.
Because of the things he says and my 'funeral parlor' (I mean church body) believe.....that element would have to be present.
But if I could make them get caught up on the POWER of Jesus as they are on the PERSON of Jesus.....it could have a life-changing effect.
By virtue of what you're saying, it may be on your heart (or in your spirit) not to include Jesus (the physical appearance thereof, mind you :wink: ), but to elude to Him. As someone (I believe it was BBoy) stated, Jesus is God; so since Jesus wasn't around (born) during the time of David, and other men who have been mentioned as potential characters for this play, you could deal with the men themselves and show how the POWER of God can heal, deliver and change men and bring out the king inside of them.
And, of course, you'd have to do the songs, "Changed" (Tremaine Hawkins) and "King inside of me" and "Take my Life" (Donnie McClurkin and Micah Stampley from the "He-motions" CD)
Just my thoughts.
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As someone (I believe it was BBoy) stated, Jesus is God
That was me and other than you I think everyone just glanced past my posts
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As someone (I believe it was BBoy) stated, Jesus is God
That was me and other than you I think everyone just glanced past my posts
I apologize, good brother. And, what you stated (after rereading it) is, I believe, exactly what Peach's church needs in order to begin thinking outside the box.
By the way, what's good? :D
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Here's a thought ( I'm a woman so pls pardon the intrusion) Pray about the men in your fellowship. Ask God to show you the one's who match an element of the characters you will portray and match them up accordingly. For instance, say you havea part as Jabez, who was the least of all his brethren. He prayed a simple prayer and God honored his request. Now look amongst the men you will be working with and find someone who is "the least" maybe now as brassy as the others but willing to work and honest. PUt him in that role. Get what I'm saying?
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My thoughts exactly Jonathan, so many people separate the One TRUE GOD into 3 separate GODS when it is ONE GOD that is Omnipitant larger than we can conceive that takes many forms to minister to us.
I'll PM you of what's up...
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King Inside of Me? HUH?
Never heard it but sounds like it might be crucial to the production. Please let me know where/how I can get it.
Thanks.
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King Inside of Me? HUH?
Never heard it but sounds like it might be crucial to the production. Please let me know where/how I can get it.
Thanks.
See you're so busy listening to Dianne Williams that you haven't had time for anything else. :lol: :lol: :lol:
You're doing a production for and about men, get the He-motions CD from TD Jakes.
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Well, you kinda just messed that up for me Jonathan.
See, Pastor is a traditionalist (like I've said a billion times) and feels like "some ministers whose choirs record CD's and have sold-out conferences" are nothing but good motivational speakers who tell people what they want to hear and offer them some type of comfort for doing things that aren't spiritual. I DID NOT SAY I FELT THIS WAY, BUT HE IS THE PASTOR - SO PLEASE DO NOT JUMP ON ME FOR THAT COMMENT.
When I taught the choir "His Mercy Endureth Forever", it was the most beautiful thing since sliced bread. Then, we did a concert and I narrated and told the audience who recorded it and WHAT DID I DO THAT FOR? I got questioned big time about what I'm trying to "bring into the church". First people come to church doing "the holy ghost dance"....then a few visitors show up and start "speaking in tongues"....then "you have a woman preacher come in here to MC a program"....now you wanna teach the choir music by "the good motivational speaker whose name I shall not call so I won't get jumped on".
This is the kind of thing I have to deal with...and I'm trying to open my granddaddy's eyes and the church's as well! It's a hard fight but my helmet is made of steel!
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Well, you kinda just messed that up for me Jonathan.
See, Pastor is a traditionalist (like I've said a billion times) and feels like "some ministers whose choirs record CD's and have sold-out conferences" are nothing but good motivational speakers who tell people what they want to hear and offer them some type of comfort for doing things that aren't spiritual. I DID NOT SAY I FELT THIS WAY, BUT HE IS THE PASTOR - SO PLEASE DO NOT JUMP ON ME FOR THAT COMMENT.
When I taught the choir "His Mercy Endureth Forever", it was the most beautiful thing since sliced bread. Then, we did a concert and I narrated and told the audience who recorded it and WHAT DID I DO THAT FOR? I got questioned big time about what I'm trying to "bring into the church". First people come to church doing "the holy ghost dance"....then a few visitors show up and start "speaking in tongues"....then "you have a woman preacher come in here to MC a program"....now you wanna teach the choir music by "the good motivational speaker whose name I shall not call so I won't get jumped on".
This is the kind of thing I have to deal with...and I'm trying to open my granddaddy's eyes and the church's as well! It's a hard fight but my helmet is made of steel!
Yea, there's some stuff that, if you aren't asked, you need not share. And, I'd rather "just a good motivational speaker", then to be bored to death with tradition like what's happening at your church.
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Yeah huh, at least you could motivate me not to go to sleep on ya!!!
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What bothers me most is that some other Memphis churches who were much more die-hard traditionalists than my folks have stepped it up a notch....WE ARE STILL THERE!
But there are signs everywhere that the people in our church want a change (well, about 25% of us, anyway). The question is how?
He asked me to do men of the bible...and of course I will...that's my granddaddy for goodness sake...why wouldn't I? But what I will want to introduce the people to is something new....say for instance a church where men praise God with no shame!? Some people still believe that men are not supposed to "get happy in church" and they are DEACONS!
LEAVING is the easy way out, but I keep wondering what if there is something God wants me to see and experience and what if I am one of the instruments he is using to bring about a change? If it's not in His will for me to leave and go to a church that "does the things I like", then I am stepping way out of line. So again I say, I'm torn.
But you guys have given me some foundation to work from and I'm sure it will be good.......thanks!
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Peach it sounds like you need a fo-real Holy Ghost experience. So many churches caught in tradition have used Corinthians to forbid people from operating in the Spirit when it actually gives freedom to operate in the Spirit. Your church wouldn't like me up in there, not only would I be some big ole white guy but I'd be praising in tongues as well.
An example of this is I sat in on a class the pastor was teaching new members and this particular sister who just joined our church was a church mother that had grown up in church and she was probably around 60 years young at this point. I happened to bring up the last sunday service to the pastor and how I was worshiping in tongues while playing on the keyboard and he celebrated with me...
The sister was like, I thought you couldn't speak in tongues without an interpretation.
That opened up a door for me to minister to her and had it just been me some 34 year old she would have just let it go through one ear and out the other. But my pastor was in Full agreement with me and she was receiving the message. Now keep in mind this is a Baptist church but some are trying to get it out of tradition.
She has a new outlook on the gifts now and she said she feels cheated out of a blessing for all those years stuck in tradition.
She hasn't received the baptism of the Holy Ghost yet but she is growing spiritually and I'm sure she will achive that soon.
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I feel like it will happen there too.....and I dare not question God and ask Him when.
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I really like that Deacon Stephens character. Instead of defending himself, he gave an Old Testement schooling to the Sanhedrin, a very harsh one at that. Of course, they HAD to stone him.
As far as Jesus, people WILL erroneously be offended if you don't put him in. Yet, by putting him in, you're reducing Him to being just a man of faith. Like someone said earlier, Jesus IS God. Believe it or not, a lot of church people haven't accepted that yet, not even realizing that the whole Bible spells that out.
Tony
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What about Stephen (who was stoned)
Thanks man, I was just about to mention the Story of Stephen in Acts, reason being was he was a normal person, not as high in rank as peter and Paul, but had a very powerful story in the end and Jesus was made manifest in his life that people could see, I love that story and What about that Guy, I think his name was Achaias, where his daughter is dead and Jesus bring hers back to life, and he is one of the the synogogue leaders, I cant find the reference yall, my family got my bible :oops: :x :oops: ( I just moved to my dorm) but its the same story where the women is healed of her issue of blood, but if you look closely in the story of Achaias, then you might see why I mentioned Him, If not, even consider Jonah, who ran away from his call, but he eventionally did what the lord told him to do, cause his call involved alot of people and MINISTRY, which is a very important and essential part of today's mens lives, them struggling with the things God tells them to do, because they are so big and are great undertakings, Imagine how you would feel if God told you to do, What God told Jonah to do, A great undertaking and Its a blessing that he realized that he needed to talk with God in the belly of a fish( I guess now thats what makes him a great "fisher of men" lolololol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ) just kidding, but thats cool, maybe you could include a character for the young men as well, try the story about the boy Who had 2 fish and five loaves of bread, think about... those thousands of people would have not been fed, if it wasnt for that little boy giving that seed to jesus, his own little lunch, and yet God used that to expand to thousands people, that story could be used as well if you want, cause young men need to know that God can Usethem too! IM going to come back if I think of some more, I Love Ideas for plays, you know why? (my mom boggles my mind up for her plays all the time so, Im used to these insightful requests lol :lol: :lol: :lol: ) I hope this helps a little though, oh yeah Im going to try and find the story on that religious leader whos daughter was risen from the dead cause I want to learn more about that one :wink: hit me
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:oops: MANNNNN!!!! LOL I didnt even realize how many people responded to the Stephen Idea already, but Im glad sjonathan and the other people brought it up, Im late.... lol I feel goofed, I didnt realize how long this topic had gotten before I had even posted something, I read some of the first post on the FIRST page then posted something, and I realized that im extra late, Im on the 3rd page :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh yeah, what about that Pilate dude, I know what youre thinking... What!??! pilate? but I think hes position in not wanting to have blood his hans on the matter of Jesus being crucified was kind of interesting, u think? maybe not... but IM definitely going to keep thinking lol :wink:
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The Deacon who is President of the "I Hate Herman" club and the one who initiated the whole "He can't be Minister of Music and on payroll because he's Pastor's grandson", and the co-signer of the "why pay a recording artist to sing for God when people are supposed to do that for free" campaign......would be perfect for Stephen! And I'd be the perfect stoner!
LOL, Naw not really, cause Stephen didnt deserve those stones, but it sounds to me that your deacon here DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel sorry fah dat deacon, who is probably going to eagerly sign up for dat part and perform, cause people seem to aim(herman ) very well when there's a perfect target (deacon) :twisted: hahahahahahah, dont hurt him toooo bad man dont hurt him tooooo bad :lol: :lol: :lol:
but do it for the people that have the same problem :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D when it comes to putting great functions together, and you got haters trying to put salt on a already seasoned saint, U HEARD ME? lol I want to see dat, but of course this is spoken from an enraged teen so dont mind me 8) 8) 8) hahahah this is sweet and funny, is it what you call psycho babble? :wink: that term is fresh and sweet...........
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I guess I'll have to order He-motions online from Bishop Jakes directly. Nowhere I went in Memphis had it.
Even in my sleep last night, GOD kept my mind focused on "Men After God's Own Heart".
Of course, after rehearsal tonight.....the question dropped in my spirit...what does it mean to be a man after God's own heart?
I think that is where the production should start...with the question and its answer....followed by some examples of men who did whatever it took to please God....even when it meant forsaking family, friends, and giving up other things to follow Him and do His will.
Of course, that idea is somewhat personally motivated because the men in our church don't do anything nor do they care about anything. As men, we are supposed to be leaders and you would think that in CHURCH seeking to please God no matter what would be our main priority....and in our daily lives (but especially in the church).
SIDE NOTE: The two Coke machines in the fellowship hall stayed EMPTY from the end of October until last Saturday. None of the men with the key took the initiative to replenish the Coke machine! Something so simple....and there are about 4 men with keys! I am not one of them, but that didn't stop me from going to the store, buying some Cokes....asking my granddaddy to let me use his key....and doing it myself! I'm not a Deacon!
Today, the male chorus had rehearsal at 6pm. I left the church at 6:20 after doing the programs for tomorrow, and there were two men present for rehearsal. I came back around 7:40 to make additional copies of some materials for the play, and the church was empty! Did they just have a quick rehearsal....or did they just not care to show up knowing that tomorrow is their Sunday to sing!?
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:roll no wonder there's such a power struggle, it appears there is lack of dedication on their part, and their oblivious to their purpose and duty in the church, and the rehearsal thing!?!?!? dont get me started lol...... thats a little on the ridiculous side :evil: , If I had someone in my church like you(itsallpeach) putting so many great things together and being a key asset in the church I probably,
Would have gone all out my way to make sure little trivial things like the coke machine being filled up was done, JUST so you wouldnt have to do it 8O I think that is kind of unfair as well, Maybe they do need to see a play so these men can become workers of the church and doers of word... just me speakin my mind lololololol :lol: :lol: :lol:
Be blessed man, oh yeah im still thinking k?
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I dont know if Ehud is a man after God's own heart but he was a left handed asssasin who did what needed to be done for God's people...he doesnt get a lot of mention in the bible but it was a thought
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I guess I'll have to order He-motions online from Bishop Jakes directly. Nowhere I went in Memphis had it.
Even in my sleep last night, GOD kept my mind focused on "Men After God's Own Heart".
Of course, after rehearsal tonight.....the question dropped in my spirit...what does it mean to be a man after God's own heart?
I think that is where the production should start...with the question and its answer....followed by some examples of men who did whatever it took to please God....even when it meant forsaking family, friends, and giving up other things to follow Him and do His will.
Of course, that idea is somewhat personally motivated because the men in our church don't do anything nor do they care about anything. As men, we are supposed to be leaders and you would think that in CHURCH seeking to please God no matter what would be our main priority....and in our daily lives (but especially in the church).
SIDE NOTE: The two Coke machines in the fellowship hall stayed EMPTY from the end of October until last Saturday. None of the men with the key took the initiative to replenish the Coke machine! Something so simple....and there are about 4 men with keys! I am not one of them, but that didn't stop me from going to the store, buying some Cokes....asking my granddaddy to let me use his key....and doing it myself! I'm not a Deacon!
Today, the male chorus had rehearsal at 6pm. I left the church at 6:20 after doing the programs for tomorrow, and there were two men present for rehearsal. I came back around 7:40 to make additional copies of some materials for the play, and the church was empty! Did they just have a quick rehearsal....or did they just not care to show up knowing that tomorrow is their Sunday to sing!?
Peach, I told ya...go to Amazon.com and get your copy. It'll be cheaper anyway.
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Would it be "cliche'" to include Adam?