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Offline Revdev

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Tri-tones
« on: March 28, 2005, 08:50:47 AM »
Hey all!
Hope your Resurrection Sunday was off the hook!
Can someone explain tri-tones for me?
Appreciate it!
Only by His mercy,

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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2005, 09:03:03 AM »
Tri-tones are:

A diminished 5th interval.  You can find it by starting on any note and counting up 6 half notes (semi-tones).

to use them for example, if you are playing a C chord you can play the tritone in the left hand and a C chord in the right.

E Bb / C E G


Look at this document on page 4.
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/ebooks/charts.pdf
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2005, 10:45:13 AM »
Just another thought to add on . . . .

here's how I find tri-tones. They are just the third and the dominant seventh of any chord. So a tritone for C is E and Bb.

A tritone in F would be A and Eb.

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2005, 06:04:21 PM »
Let me show you a trick I learned in school-

Perfect 5ths: A/E, C/G, D/A, E/B, G/D

Tritone: B/F

All the intervals I listed as Perfect 5ths are all the white key Perfect, or Major 5ths.  In order for those intervals to remain perfect 5ths, they have to share the same accidental(natural, sharp, or flat).

The way I have written, you assume they are naturals, because you don't have to say 'A natural/E natural', that's just what they are.

So if you want a perfect fifth from Ab, then you have to flat the E too.  if you want a perfect fifth from Db then you have to flat the A too.  

If you want a tritone off any of those intervals, then you either sharp the 1st note of the interval, or flat the last note.  

So if you want the tritone above A, flat E.  If you want the tritone above E, flat B.  

If you want the tritone above Eb, then flat the Bb, which is Bbb, but call it A.  A tritone above Db is A.

I probably lost you there, but just think about it and look at the pattern.

The only exception to that is the B/F interval, which already is a tritone as it is.  If you want the major 5th below F, you have to flat the B.  If you want a Major 5th above B, sharp the F.  

TWIST YOUR MIND

What do you get when you invert a tritone?  Answer below.

Invert the Perfect 5ths I have listed, and you'll get perfect 4ths.  

A/E is a perfect fifth, but E/A is a perfect 4th.

An inverted tritone is still a tritone.   :D
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Tri-tones
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2005, 03:12:42 PM »
Thanks for the info. I am still trying to figure out all the lingo and everything as I learn more. Thanks to all! Another question tho- how do I integrate these tri-tones into my chording and playing?
Only by His mercy,

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Re: Tri-tones
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2005, 03:32:20 PM »
Quote from: Revdev
Hey all!
Hope your Resurrection Sunday was off the hook!
Can someone explain tri-tones for me?
Appreciate it!




let’s talk about tri- tones a little…..

tri-tone is good for useing in passing, you can actually resolve useing it, the thing about the tri-tone is, the chord of choice in the right hand…..i will show you some ways of proper utilization of the tri-tone……

now one of the most common ways are just in standard, chording…..say like your common progression….

Lh/rh
We’ll work with  “ C “
Chorded by – algieres…

-   A STANDARD 2-5-1 -  F#C/EbF#AC -----FB/DFGB -----EBb/EGC



NOW! IT GETS INTERESTING FROM THERE, BECAUSE WHAT YOU CAN DO IS JUST CHANGE THE VOICING IN YOUR RIGHT HAND!

-  AGAIN ( 2-5-1- ) -    F#C/FF#Bb-----FB/EbFBb------EBb/DGC    


NOW ANOTHER WAY [EOPLE USE THE TRI-TONE IS IN WHAT IS KNOWN AS A SUPER IMPOSED CHORD, WHICH IS NOTHING BUT, ONE CHORD ON TOP OF ANOTHER…..

EX: CEBb/DF#AC#.....

SO NOW YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE THIS CHORD, BECAUSE IF YOU USE IT IN THE WRONG PLACE, IT MAY SOUND DISFUNCTIONAL….SO I WILL GIVE SOME BASIC EXAMPLES, THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH THE UTILIZATION OF THIS CHORD…….

LH/RH

DA/CEFA--EB/DF#GB--FC/EGAC--( F#C/FBbD—FB/EAF# )-GF/BEAb-BbE/DM7


NOW ANOTHER WAY IT IS USED IS IN THE INFAMOUS PREACHING CHORDS, THAT SEEM TO BAFFLE SOME OF THE MOST ENDURING MUSICIANS.,..IM TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO BEEN PLAYING A LONG TIME AND STILL HAVENT FIGURED OUT HOW IT’S DONE! WELL HERE IT IS…..JUST A FEW EXAMPLES….OF TRI-TONE AND ITS USE IN PREACHING CHORDS……

CBb/DGC
EbA/EbGAC
EbF#AC/EbF#AC
F#C/FBbD---FB/EAC#
EBb/EGBbC….

F#C/F#BbCF
BF/BbBEb
BbE/ADG

EAbD/EGC
FAbC/EbGBb
AbD/AbCDG
GC#FGC
F#C/FF#Bb
FB/FBbBEb
EBb/EABbD……

THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF MANY POSSIBILITIES AND USES OF THE TRI-TONES………. BE BLESSED..

GIERES!!!!!
gieres.....

god is greatly to be praised!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2005, 10:29:40 AM »
Can anybody find the error in the tritone explanation I gave earlier?

Look over it before you look at my answer.  

Still can't find it?

Look in these sentences:

"So if you want the tritone above A, flat E. If you want the tritone above E, flat B. "

If you want the tritone above Eb, then flat the Bb, which is Bbb, but call it A. A tritone above Db is A."

You see it?

Another hint: it's not that 1st sentence, it's in the second sentence-look at it again:

"If you want the tritone above Eb, then flat the Bb, which is Bbb, but call it A. A tritone above Db is A."

Still can't see it?  

Let's review the rules:

"All the intervals I listed as Perfect 5ths are all the white key Perfect, or Major 5ths. In order for those intervals to remain perfect 5ths, they have to share the same accidental(natural, sharp, or flat)."

and

"If you want a tritone off any of those intervals, then you either sharp the 1st note of the interval, or flat the last note."

Give up?

Ok....

"A tritone above Db is A"

WRONG! :roll:  

1st of all, in order for it to be a perfect fifth, the notes have to share accidentals.  

Db/Ab would be a perfect, or major 5th.

a tritone is a diminished 5th or augmented 4th....

So being that Db/Ab is a major fifth, if we raise the Ab to A natural, we don't have a tritone because we didn't lower the top note, we raised the top note.  If we flat the Ab, we get G, and there's the tritone above Db.  

Sorry for the confustion, hope that clears it up.
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