How Long

[Mrandrew]

How long does it take you guys to figure out a song? Last night I was working on this cut by George Duke (tune kept playing in my head all yesterday) it has such a nice progression and melody line had to learn. Let me tell you it took me from 5 until 9 to get these chords.

The song is simple but his chord fingering was throwing me off, so I had to listen for the highest sounding note to get the fingering. I've been getting better, but I tell you I was about to shut down from frustration on this one.

[T-Block]

Depends on the song man. I've learned a song in as little as a couple of minutes to as long as a couple of weeks.

It also depends on how close to the original you want to get it. I'm usually satisfied just knowing the pattern of the song. But there are those songs that in order to do it justice, you need to get specific voicings and runs down.

[Mrandrew]

Depends on the song man. I've learned a song in as little as a couple of minutes to as long as a couple of weeks.

It also depends on how close to the original you want to get it. I'm usually satisfied just knowing the pattern of the song. But there are those songs that in order to do it justice, you need to get specific voicings and runs down.

That's where the problem was I had to find the voicing of the chords in order to make the song noticeable.

[csedwards2]

That's where the problem was I had to find the voicing of the chords in order to make the song noticeable.

gospel. No prob. Some I can pick up before I get to a board, some on the spot in service, some minutes, some hours. But every time I get up the nerve, and get dissatisfied enough with my playing that I try to transcribe something other than gospel, I get stumped easily, and I give up. George Duke, wouldnt even mess with it right now. I even gave up on the guy thats supposed to use the most fundamental of voicings for jazz. My training has not prepared me to hear stuff like that.

[docjohn]

what song MrA?  Got a link?  Some are easier than others;I tried on 1 tune to pick the sax line out for 4 hours-the way it was mixed ;you could sort of hear the line;but NOT hear it.I never did get the line down.To share the torment;it's "Never gonna stop" by Tommy Walker;if you can pick the WHOLE sax line out;send me the chart -puuuullllease!

Other's ya sit down;and it's just-There!

Like Gerry Mulligan(bari sax) said about playing "Cherokee" for 40 yrs ;"I've been trying to play it RIGHT for 40yrs"

[Mrandrew]

what song MrA?  Got a link?  Some are easier than others;I tried on 1 tune to pick the sax line out for 4 hours-the way it was mixed ;you could sort of hear the line;but NOT hear it.I never did get the line down.To share the torment;it's "Never gonna stop" by Tommy Walker;if you can pick the WHOLE sax line out;send me the chart -puuuullllease!

Other's ya sit down;and it's just-There!

Like Gerry Mulligan(bari sax) said about playing "Cherokee" for 40 yrs ;"I've been trying to play it RIGHT for 40yrs"

This is the only thing I can find for the tune. It's called No One, Roy Hargrove(trumpet) use these chords in a song called Family.

George Duke Tribute *No one*

[csedwards2]

what song MrA?  Got a link?  Some are easier than others;I tried on 1 tune to pick the sax line out for 4 hours-the way it was mixed ;you could sort of hear the line;but NOT hear it.I never did get the line down.To share the torment;it's "Never gonna stop" by Tommy Walker;if you can pick the WHOLE sax line out;send me the chart -puuuullllease!

Other's ya sit down;and it's just-There!

Like Gerry Mulligan(bari sax) said about playing "Cherokee" for 40 yrs ;"I've been trying to play it RIGHT for 40yrs"

no when Im picking up a sax line, I pick up a sax. The overtones might throw you, but I know the fingerings, so I can usually find the easiest combination for the line to keep going based on how the keys are layed out, and how fingering flows together.

[docjohn]

I did pick up my tenor;the way it's mixed-couldn't fiqure it out;but neither could several other players.Just one of those songs