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Offline HeartSoulandSpirit

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Augmented chords application
« on: December 02, 2009, 07:58:27 AM »
Hello LGM,

So I am practicing 9ths and augmented chords last night and came upon a question.

In a 7-3-6-2-5-1 progression, I was trying to substitute augmented chords in and it seems that the only way it seems to fit is on the 3.  Looking at chord qualities, example:   7 (dim) - 3 (minor) - 6(minor) -2 (minor) -5 (major) -1 (major).... I naturally assumed that since augmented can be used for 3 it can be used for 6 and 2 as well.  Is that correct?  It didn't that sound good to me, but I was just curious.

I guess what I'm asking is what is the best application for augmented chords?

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Re: Augmented chords application
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 10:08:34 AM »
Hello LGM,

So I am practicing 9ths and augmented chords last night and came upon a question.

In a 7-3-6-2-5-1 progression, I was trying to substitute augmented chords in and it seems that the only way it seems to fit is on the 3.  Looking at chord qualities, example:   7 (dim) - 3 (minor) - 6(minor) -2 (minor) -5 (major) -1 (major).... I naturally assumed that since augmented can be used for 3 it can be used for 6 and 2 as well.  Is that correct?  It didn't that sound good to me, but I was just curious.

I guess what I'm asking is what is the best application for augmented chords?

O.K., just like u asked about the dom. 9 chord in another post, augmented chords can be substituted for any dominant or secondary dominant chord. The raised 5 in the augmented chord is the leading tone to a note in the next chord. Have u ever heard of or played the dom7. #5/#9 chord? Example:

7-3-6 progression in C

B / A-D-F
E / G#-C-D-G *E7 #5/#9
A / G-C-E

Notice that in the second chord is a #5, which means this is an augmented chord. Here it is part of a dominant 7th chord, but it is still augmented.
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Re: Augmented chords application
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2009, 10:58:09 AM »
Ok, lets see.....
Not really clear on what you're saying, simply because I don't have my mind around the dominants and secondary dominants.  I'm playing by the chord progressions. Let me give you an example of where I am:

1 - Major, Madd9
2 - Minor, m7
3 - minor, augmented
4 - major, M7, Madd9
5 - Major, M7
6 - Minor
7 - Dim, or 1/2 dim

As of this week I starting to incorporate 9ths.  So regardless of the progression, thats the chords I'm thinking when I play those tones.  As you can see, I'm still learning, but I give thanks to God for this website and your knowledge, bruh.  Anyway, thats where I am.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Augmented chords application
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2009, 07:57:14 PM »
What I'm saying is there is no specific scale degree where a certain chord has to be played. Any chord can be played anywhere that sounds good. Augmented chords act as dominant chords because the raised 5 is a leading tone for a note in the next chord. You can read up on secondary dominants at these links:

Secondary Dominants:  http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,37792.0.html

Secondary Dominant Chord Practice: http://www.learngospelmusic.com/forums/index.php/topic,43393.0.html
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Re: Augmented chords application
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 03:20:03 PM »
I use the the Dom 7 #5 #9 ALL the time.  I use it to fatten up my usual 2, 3, or 6., or even a major chord

Instead of playing a simple F minor:

F-C-F / C-F-Ab

I'd play:

F-A / Ab-Db-Eb-Ab

Notice: the Ab is still the melody note.

Pretty easy when you think about it.  A simple 3rd (or 10th) in the left hand, and suspended chord in your right hand. 

This same chord can be used to replace an E major chord if the Ab (G#) is melody note.

I ABUSE this chord.   :D

Any chord can be used in any key in the right situation.  It may take rearranging the voicing a bit, but just about any chord will fit, even if it's only as a passing chord.

NOTE: if you find that a chord is dissonant and it doesn't "sound right", those are sometimes the best passing chords.

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Re: Augmented chords application
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 06:14:06 PM »
I ABUSE this chord.   :D

Me too man, LOL. Anytime I step to a keyboard or piano, you better believe this chord will be played at some point. :D
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Re: Augmented chords application
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2010, 07:52:42 AM »
 Augmented chords application is really very important information for me.
Thanks for sharing this nice information.

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Re: Augmented chords application
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 11:42:50 PM »
I use the the Dom 7 #5 #9 ALL the time.  I use it to fatten up my usual 2, 3, or 6., or even a major chord

Instead of playing a simple F minor:

F-C-F / C-F-Ab

I'd play:

F-A / Ab-Db-Eb-Ab

Notice: the Ab is still the melody note.

Pretty easy when you think about it.  A simple 3rd (or 10th) in the left hand, and suspended chord in your right hand. 

This same chord can be used to replace an E major chord if the Ab (G#) is melody note.

I ABUSE this chord.   :D

Any chord can be used in any key in the right situation.  It may take rearranging the voicing a bit, but just about any chord will fit, even if it's only as a passing chord.

NOTE: if you find that a chord is dissonant and it doesn't "sound right", those are sometimes the best passing chords.
Wow...I LOVE THE 7 #9 #5 chord...it just sounds so smooth...
i transposed it 2 all keys but i had a question about the part  about replacing an E majo chord, do u use it as a 1 chord or it doesn't really matter
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