Christians and Weight Loss Procedures

[Jmanley1116]

man, that hits a sore spot for me, My good friend and music partner had that done, right when we were finishing his album. We did the last vocal tracking to complete the album, he went in, had the procedure, was in recovery for a week, then died the following week.

still mad about that. we did alotta work only for it to go *poof*.

 

I know a few people who have died behind that surgery.  I also know a few who have had major success and then a few who have struggled with it.  So, my experiences run the gambit.  I don't know how I feel.  I totally understand that some people just do not have it in them to excersize...I understand that.  But I would assume those people would go for the whole lipo/tummy tuck thing.  "The Surgery" is alot of work (as was previously mentioned).  I guess I am on board with not having it unless it is life threatening. 

 

[BigFoot_BigThumb]

I know a few people who have died behind that surgery.  I also know a few who have had major success and then a few who have struggled with it.  So, my experiences run the gambit.   

The cousin that I spoke of earlier had a co-worker die that had the surgery at the same time she did.  My cousin actually had a heart attack herself.  I have also seen where people have had the surgery, then due to the sagging skin they have to have more surgery to remove the skin which is a very difficult and long recovery for some.  That just isn't worth it in my eyes.

[J. Ty]

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[T-Block]

It took you ____ years to put all that weight on, and you seriously expect it to be gone tomorrow? GET REAL!!! There is a simple formula to losing weight, you have to burn off more than you consume. Anything other than that and it usually won't last.

I'm still trying to figure out how being a Christian should affect one's decision of weight loss procedures. This seems to be a non-spiritual matter.

[Fenix]

Its a spiritual matter, T. If the Lord called you to be a preacher and you're so fat that you st?rt huffing and puffing 5 minutes into the sermon, what use are you?

[T-Block]

Its a spiritual matter, T. If the Lord called you to be a preacher and you're so fat that you st?rt huffing and puffing 5 minutes into the sermon, what use are you?

That's when you sit yo but down and preach from the chair, lol. I've seen preachers do just that.

[emusicme28]

That's when you sit yo but down and preach from the chair, lol. I've seen preachers do just that.

Saw one do that Sunday. 

As far as this thread, It's my opinion that one should change their mindset concerning food and live a healthier lifestyle. The weight will come off with the proper diet and exercise. What good is a weight loss surgery when you haven't done what it takes mentally to keep the weight off? Those pounds will eventually come back plus some. Ive seen this happen to quite a few people who use these surgery's as remedies.

[LaylaMonroe]

It's spiritual because our bodies are our temples - the temple in which the Holy Ghost resides (for those of us that are filled). It is so unfortunate that our churches don't teach or emphasize the spiritual significance of physical health. I can only imagine that it must be a slap in God's face for Him to have taken such great care to design our bodies so wondrously, so amazingly, in such perfect detail - only to have us treat it like crap... filling it up with all kinds of junk - as opposed to the manna he provided for us, decorating it with all kinds of holes and tattoos, altering it with surgeries... I'm not God, so I dunno. Maybe it doesn't bother Him at all. *shrug* I would think it would, though.

Also, failing to take proper care of our bodies usually indicates that there are some areas of our character that need to be sharpened, and probably a rotten fruit or two. Self-control, temperance, moderation, patience, self-denial, respect... these are all principles the Bible teaches, and they are all principles that go right out the window when we eat what we want, as opposed to what our bodies need. And for the record, this DOES NOT APPLY ONLY to overweight people. There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals. Skipping meals... It's a shame that churches produce Christians that don't even care about their bodies or consider it NOT a spiritual matter.

*stepping off soap box*

[churchyreal]

It's spiritual because our bodies are our temples - the temple in which the Holy Ghost resides (for those of us that are filled). It is so unfortunate that our churches don't teach or emphasize the spiritual significance of physical health. I can only imagine that it must be a slap in God's face for Him to have taken such great care to design our bodies so wondrously, so amazingly, in such perfect detail - only to have us treat it like crap... filling it up with all kinds of junk - as opposed to the manna he provided for us, decorating it with all kinds of holes and tattoos, altering it with surgeries... I'm not God, so I dunno. Maybe it doesn't bother Him at all. *shrug* I would think it would, though.

Also, failing to take proper care of our bodies usually indicates that there are some areas of our character that need to be sharpened, and probably a rotten fruit or two. Self-control, temperance, moderation, patience, self-denial, respect... these are all principles the Bible teaches, and they are all principles that go right out the window when we eat what we want, as opposed to what our bodies need. And for the record, this DOES NOT APPLY ONLY to overweight people. There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals. Skipping meals... It's a shame that churches produce Christians that don't even care about their bodies or consider it NOT a spiritual matter.

*stepping off soap box*

You is preaching up in here and stepping all up on my toes!!!

[betnich]

Here is an article about Gastric Bypass and Type 2 Diabetes -

http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/110012/gastric-surgery

 - bottom line, surgery helps the glucose levels (temporarily) but doesn't cure the underlying condition...

[Fenix]

Wow, Mme Rue, big cosign!!! I feel so convicted. I love you at times.

[T-Block]

It's spiritual because our bodies are our temples - the temple in which the Holy Ghost resides (for those of us that are filled). It is so unfortunate that our churches don't teach or emphasize the spiritual significance of physical health. I can only imagine that it must be a slap in God's face for Him to have taken such great care to design our bodies so wondrously, so amazingly, in such perfect detail - only to have us treat it like crap... filling it up with all kinds of junk - as opposed to the manna he provided for us, decorating it with all kinds of holes and tattoos, altering it with surgeries... I'm not God, so I dunno. Maybe it doesn't bother Him at all. *shrug* I would think it would, though.

Also, failing to take proper care of our bodies usually indicates that there are some areas of our character that need to be sharpened, and probably a rotten fruit or two. Self-control, temperance, moderation, patience, self-denial, respect... these are all principles the Bible teaches, and they are all principles that go right out the window when we eat what we want, as opposed to what our bodies need. And for the record, this DOES NOT APPLY ONLY to overweight people. There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals. Skipping meals... It's a shame that churches produce Christians that don't even care about their bodies or consider it NOT a spiritual matter.

*stepping off soap box*

 

It's tight, but it's right. 

[SisterCM]

It's spiritual because our bodies are our temples - the temple in which the Holy Ghost resides (for those of us that are filled). It is so unfortunate that our churches don't teach or emphasize the spiritual significance of physical health. I can only imagine that it must be a slap in God's face for Him to have taken such great care to design our bodies so wondrously, so amazingly, in such perfect detail - only to have us treat it like crap... filling it up with all kinds of junk - as opposed to the manna he provided for us, decorating it with all kinds of holes and tattoos, altering it with surgeries... I'm not God, so I dunno. Maybe it doesn't bother Him at all. *shrug* I would think it would, though.

Also, failing to take proper care of our bodies usually indicates that there are some areas of our character that need to be sharpened, and probably a rotten fruit or two. Self-control, temperance, moderation, patience, self-denial, respect... these are all principles the Bible teaches, and they are all principles that go right out the window when we eat what we want, as opposed to what our bodies need. And for the record, this DOES NOT APPLY ONLY to overweight people. There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals. Skipping meals... It's a shame that churches produce Christians that don't even care about their bodies or consider it NOT a spiritual matter.

*stepping off soap box*

So true.   

[B_XALTED]

I know someone who apparently claims that he had the surgery twice... Im not even sure if this is possible. He is about 6'5'' and about 400+ pounds.

I agree LaRue, if you can do the post surgery stuff, then why cant you do this rather than having surgery Pre surgery requires you to lose some weight too, so if you can lose the 20 pounds or whatever just so you can have the surgery, then again, why cant you just do that rather than surgery

People get it really twisted. I think that the hype of the surgery kind of glorifies being over weight (for lack of a better expression), just get surgery to correct it... Its like having an abortion rather than prevention of the condition, correct the condition in one step... I disagree big time.

I have a cousin that had the surgery last year. She was a little smaller than me... I am 5'10'' and I wear a size 18, she was about a size 16 and a little shorter. She had the surgery, and it took her to about a 12, she looked awesome... I saw her a few weeks ago, and she is down to a size 5-6, and she looks ill. She said that she cannot control her weight loss, and she has become sickly from it.

If you were an emotional/ binge eater before, what makes post surgery any different the surgery only affects the digestive system, not the brain/ mind... You will still be you. No matter how small they cut your stomach. BTJMO

[B_XALTED]

AND... you can end up looking like THIS

   

[nessalynn77]

You can have it twice.  My friend's mom has done it.  The second time almost killed her.

[B_XALTED]

You can have it twice.  My friend's mom has done it.  The second time almost killed her.

So its like chicken pox? And why in the world would you do it twice? Has she kept the weight off the second time?

[cordney]

There are plenty of people like me who are thin and grossly unhealthy. Size 2 but never eating vegetables. 125 lbs but never drinking water or taking vitamins. Never exercising. Never getting enough sleep. Never eating fruits or balanced meals.
*stepping off soap box*

What happened to you working out and stuff?

[LaylaMonroe]

What happened to you working out and stuff?

I still work out.

I'm doing much better than I ever have in my adult life. I work out regularly, I drink about a bottle of water a day, which still isn't good enough but it's a lot better than I ever did.  I'm not doing so well with vegetables, but I'm trying. Same goes for sleep. I take vitamins whenever I feel like it. About once a week, on average. I'm just not a consistent person when it comes to things that don't interest me.

I wasn't talking about the current me in that post. I'm not a *real* size 2 and I'm not 125 lbs. LOL 

[LaylaMonroe]

What happened to you working out and stuff?

Oh and I eat a lot of fruit, but no balanced meals.