Are the new "shouts" starting to get out of hand?

[QCdrummer]

Ok now I'm not old school. At least I don't think I am. I like all the shouts that everybody is doing. But it just seems like the bar just keeps getting raised for who can come up with the newest and best sounding shout music. I went to this one church and it sounded like they were up there playing African Circus music. It was just way too much noise and way too much snare going on. I couldn't understand how people were shouting to this.

Personally I like to start out the traditional way, and then branch it off some from there, throwing in some Tye, Ricky Dillard, etc. But nowadays it seems like the traditional way is getting thrown out the window and they are just going straight into thier own thing. I just can't get into the spirit when I hear chops repeatedly in shouting music. Its almost like its a contest to see how long somebody can play over the bar and come back in on the one.

I love it when people are just flowing from the heart in any type of setting. But I feel alot of this is not from the heart, its from musicians seeing cameras to the left and right and trying to figure out how they can impress people on youtube.

Am I just oldschool on this one?

[juSe]

I don't think so.  Although I appreciate the creativity that it can take to arrange such a piece of music, a lot of times it just sounds over engineered.  There is no re-inventing the wheel. 

[min_amw]

There's nothing like a good shout! I don't care where you go, most people will be able to get with a good shout without all of the musical acrobats. I too can appreciate the thought and abilities of those who come up with unique and crazy ideas for shouts. But in the long run, that can only go so far before it becomes distasteful. I mean... Who wants to eat a 1-inch thick cake that's coverered in 5 inches of icing? Moderation is the key here. A good example of good shout music is the shout on Vashawn Mitchell's (sp?)cd. It has a hook, but it's not over the top. People of all ages can understand it and it goes over well. At the same time it's not so strsight that it comes across as bland/boring. Just my opinion.

[Natejam71]

I do believe composing shout music is like writing an anointed song.  It really needs to be composed as if God was listening to it Himself.  There is nothing wrong with shout music being creative and innovative.  We have to remember that when shouting we should be dancing before the Lord and the composed music should reflect that instance.  I do believe that shout music can be given to you by the Holy spirit.  After all i wonder what kind of music David played on his harp when an evil spirit was upon Saul and that spirit left Saul (I Samuel 19:9).  This scripture reminds us that God has gifted musicians to cast out evil spirits if we play unto God.  So those who compose shout music with the right spirit can do the work of the Lord.  What are your thoughts.  Stay blessed, Nate J.

[diligent-hands]

the 1 and the 2 is alllll i need

[QCdrummer]

I like alot of them, but when I'm looking at some of these praise breaks, its just seems like musicians are starting to just take it to a whole new place. It doesn't have to be bland and boring, but knowing when to bring it in and when to take it out is important. And whats happening now is that its being brought in but not getting taken out.

[diligent-hands]

they just stepping OUT THE BOX like tonex...its all about who can be the most creative...its still all for the love and passion..

[Metronome]

Yeah I agree to a sense........like me and my crew at church do hits......A LOT of them.  But at the same time they are different.......As we like to say it "we be churchin".  All of our stuff is mad traditional soundin but its new at the same time....Now I CANT STAND when you hear shoutin music and its no referencee to traditional at all......thats why I can pupm with Tye's music...cuz its new but you can feel the ol' school in it

[sjonathan02]

To answer the question in the thread, 'yes', most definitely.

[sugabear]

I totally agree with you. I love the creative things that are going on with "the shout", but in my opinion it just ain't the same if you don't throw in the original buck shout. I'm just one man though. One thing I can say is the people who are doing the shouting don't seem to mind it. It seems as long as the music has the right tempo they're going to go for broke. One thing I have realized is that the amount of people who use to shout when the shout music broke out has greatly diminished. Most of the time when the shout breaks out now people are standing up and looking around like "what the...."

[QCdrummer]

Its almost like I'm afraid to see what people are going to come out with next. Where does it go from here? 

Now its like you can barely play shouts with musicians you don't know. The keyboardist is doing his own thing then you have the bass player is on his own page, then you're on the drums trying to figure what the shout the keyboardist on. lol, creates alot of mess.

[drumzalicious]

I totally agree with you. I love the creative things that are going on with "the shout", but in my opinion it just ain't the same if you don't throw in the original buck shout. I'm just one man though. One thing I can say is the people who are doing the shouting don't seem to mind it. It seems as long as the music has the right tempo they're going to go for broke. One thing I have realized is that the amount of people who use to shout when the shout music broke out has greatly diminished. Most of the time when the shout breaks out now people are standing up and looking around like "what the...."

A Lot of that has to do with people who are going down in flames. either the pastor is not really giving it or the musical artist/praise leader isnt giving it so they resort to trying to force the atmosphere and it isnt annointed because if it was everyone would be feeling it and going with it. well at least the majority cause some people just wont shout lol.


In response to the original question i do agree that sometimes it is taken to far. i like creativity though but as you said i dont like it to the point where its overboard. i have heard some people shout and it doesnt even start with the traditional shout groove.

[Ramar]

Now I CANT STAND when you hear shoutin music and its no referencee to traditional at all......thats why I can pupm with Tye's music...cuz its new but you can feel the ol' school in it

I agree 100%... I also hate when people be tryna add well-known melodies and riffs in shout music as well. I heard one person playing inspector gadget in shout music... it sounded cheesy, out-of-place, and the organist thought he sounded good... Anything you make up, should be able to tie into the traditional, in my opinion... Besides that's part of the thrill of making up "shouts" and breaks; coming up with a formula that can be played alongside the traditional sound without sounding out of place.

[under13]

it isnt annointed because if it was everyone would be feeling it and going with it. well at least the majority cause some people just wont shout lol.

Not sure if I can agree with that. Just because most of the people dont shout, does not mean its not anointed. What about the churches who are very diverse, and just may not be into that kinda stuff. IDK, I just dont think anything is wrong just because most of the people dont react in the same way to something.

[musician4life]

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

[Hotsticks1]

1st off let me just say Ramar Ima need you to take my wife off of your profile picture...lol...2nd man I definetly feel whats being said. When it comes to shout music you always hafta have reference to the oldschool. But i mean at the same time...lets face it...music is evolving, and with it changes are going to come to even the most traditional music.