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Offline jjegede04

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Sounds
« on: December 06, 2008, 04:28:53 AM »
I wanted to know,



How do you get this sound on a keyboard
(its sort of a flicking sound)  ?/? :-\



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Re: Sounds
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 07:43:05 AM »
If you're talking about the piano,think it's several things;key range right hand is in,articulation of fingers/arm strike of the keys,what's being played-some octaves,and individual sound of the piano/miking and EQ

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Re: Sounds
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2008, 07:46:23 AM »
As for the sound it's from a yamaha keyboard. What model?> I have the slightest idea.
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Re: Sounds
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2008, 10:06:55 AM »
thats the sound of the hammer striking the strings on a piano... most cheap keyboards don't emulate that sound and that's one of the reasons they sound so corny...

Now assuming that you are playing on a "professional-class" keyboard (like a Motif, Fantom, or maybe one of Roland's upper class keyboards, like the RD-700SX)....

Most keyboard sounds(pianos in this case) are made up of mulitsamples, which are samples of notes taken from a real piano over several key ranges, called key maps... In its simples terms, every key you play on your keyboard was taken from a recording of a key on a real piano..

On a good keyboard, there are hundreds of multisamples per patch-one sample for each note, and sampled at different velocities (the force at which the piano is struck)...

For Example, most mid-range keyboards have at least two velocity layers, which means that if you hit the keys with little force, you will hear a quieter, "darker" more mellow sound(taken from the sound of a piano played at a similar velocity). But if you play the keys strongly, you will hear a much louder, brighter sound. This is the keyboards attempt at emulating a real piano...

Now to the point... A really good keyboard will also contain a "hammer-strike" multisample, which was taken from the sound of  piano hammers striking the strings... you will only hear this sample when playing the keyboard at a higher velocity (in other words, with more force)


If your keyboard allows you to tweak and customize instruments, you should go to your patch edit (or tone edit, or whatever it's called), and try to find a hammer multisample, then turn it up... you might have to read the your instruction manual to find all that stuff...

A more simpler way(but less realistic) way would be to layer your piano sound with a woodblock (or some other solid percussion instrument), and set it up so that the woodblock is only heard at a high velocity... but be sure to turn down the woodblock, so that it doesn't overpower the sound of the piano...

I probably confused you, but i hope i educated you a little bit!!!  ;D

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Re: Sounds
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2008, 05:15:24 PM »
Ok :D    I am slightly understanding

Another question

Can anyone explain what the velocity curve does

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Re: Sounds
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2008, 07:26:15 PM »
Ok :D    I am slightly understanding

Another question

Can anyone explain what the velocity curve does

You can think of a velocity curve as the keyboards touch sensitivity.

Different keyboards all have different ways of adjusting the curve , and they often use different names for the parameters, some use values between 1 and 10 and others between 1 and 128 (or 127 on a Roland Keyboard) to represent the curve.... but I'll just use more generic terms here:

Very Light:  Select this curve if you play the piano keys very lightly, but wish for the piano to respond as though you were playing them harder.  This extreme setting is generally not useful to most players. This is usually the lowest number you can set, and on most keyboards this would be 1.

 

Light:  Select this curve if you play the piano keys lightly, but wish for the piano to respond as though you were playing them a little harder. This is a little higher, around 2 or 3 (or on a Roland, it would be between 32 and 48)

 

Normal:  This is the normal velocity curve. This is usually the default curve, somewhere around 4 or 5 (or about a 64 on a Roland)

 

Heavy:  Select this curve if you play the piano keys heavily, but wish for the piano to respond as though you were playing them a little lighter. This is usually around 6 or 7 (or between 96 and 128)

 

Very Heavy:  Select this curve if you play the piano keys very heavily, but wish for the piano to respond as though you were playing them a lighter.  This extreme setting is generally not useful to most players. This is the highest value that you can set on a keyboard.

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Re: Sounds
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2008, 11:01:51 PM »
Wow Ramar, the info is excellent. Thanks.
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Re: Sounds
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2008, 04:30:06 AM »
That was amazing thanks for the insight.

Another question (if its ok)

I saw a knob saying release, does that mean sustain ?
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