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Offline diverse379

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back in the days bach and mozart and those dudes would sit around and have shed sessions battles and jam sessions

those cats would whip out a fake book
(figured bass) and sit and improve with each other

sometimes they could just start burning up the keys by ear

really what they were doing was composing on the spot without paper

that is what we do in church when we pick out a song and figure out what chords go with the melody the person is singing that is composing

and we do it without thinking well some of us think some of us just feel

well what happened to that in the reading world
why did people stop improvising

somewhere along the line ear training stopped being taught and sight reading not even sight reading concert playing became the thing to teach

it wasnt about being able to just perform a piece it was now about getting every note just right every trill

for many of us it takes all the joy out of the music

but that doesent mean that reading cant still give you joy
it just means you have to get creative with it

that is the purpose of this post


I was sitting at my piano and I had to stop and Thank God for the growth he has allowed.

I was a bit ashamed that I waited all this time to thank him
because he was growing me all along,

I never heard the polish in my playing until very recently
some new things I have been doing included  a lot more reading a lot more.

some of us hear reading and we cringe or we say we can read when in reality we just know how to identify some notes


real reading is when you can look at a piece of music it doesent have to be a complicated bach or Beethoven piece

it could be something simple

and you can make some real sense out of it.

by that I mean you can play a measure or two pretty close to how it is supposed to be


the question is how do you get there and what if you play by ear

well that is the purpose of this post to talk about how to get to a better place with your reading by incorporating your ear.




first off
I have written a few posts on some other sources of music
I will remind you that classical musicians got polished in large part by the type of music they play.
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the teacher selects pieces that will improve a musicians musician ship

some written music is more chordal like a lot of chopin

other music is more linear like some Bach


so the teacher will select music to improve and suit a students tastes.


as Gospel musicians we have a resource of great written sheet music located in a few places

if we choose to look

one not so obvious place is GIA publications
which houses a lot of individual songs songs that we would love to hear and play in our churches real gospels real contemporary stuff
real spirituals and real anthems and everything in between


of course without knowing who is who and what sounds like what it is hard to pick a good piece

i recommend you get the cds such as guide my feet
stop by lord and use me

they all have music that is also sold in sheet music form each song costs maybe 2.00

so you arent spending that much

by having the cd and the sheet music you can use your ear and your eye to dissect the music


another source is the african heritage hymn book and james abbington has three cds that feature music that comes out of this hymnal

some of the hymns are arranged for piano so you could really cut your teeth on some good piano music take a look at perfect praise and look at the way the progression happens on there is none like you none like you none like you

I bet none of you ever would have thought to play that part that way.


I will talk about the other sources but lets focus on this topic






our goal is to play better to play with confidence and with the holy spirit

we can do that by staying in prayer and by practicing the right things

lets say for example you are working on dwell in the house by Gail jones
a beautiful contemporary/anthem available at gia


If you just tried to read the music without hearing it you would miss many of the subtleties

which is why having the cd is important you can hear the flow

and then when you start to read it you can know how the song should be set tempo wise dynamics. everything.

think about it when you are with a teacher he or she will play the piece that you are about to read and you can imitate some of what you hear

it is no diffent with us who are learning to read on our own

use all the resources you can.



use your ear to hear the original recording the Gia cds are great because you hear a lot of piano not any other instruments except maybe some light organ
but whatever the feature instrument is that is what you will hear  loud and clearly.

another point

you need to somewhat separate reading for learning from reading for performing

and further separate reading for improv knowledge and reading to develop sight reading



first separate reading for performing from reading for learning

take the gail jones piece Dwell in the house

when I first sat down at the piece I played every note like I saw it
but I couldnt play it in tempo not enough to try to perform the song

so I analyzed the chords and simplified it so I could perform the song

but my chords although close were not as nice and my syncopations were no where near as good as the written ones

So I have to take the time to learn the actual voicings and chords and timings so that I may play the song better

why?

because this is how the song can improve your technique
by playing a voicing that you would not usually play
try this
for example

AEAb/BDbAb
AbEbGb/BEbGb
GbDb/AEAbB
EDb/ADbGbA
AbBb/GbAbDbGbAb


I like this progression from the song The chords are a little hard to play at first

but after a little while maybe a week or two
they will be like second nature

this is how you read for learning

you are training your fingers not your mind to play different shapes
and play different scales and melodies things that arent familiar.

but maybe you just need to play the song at your next service and you dont have the time to read each note exactly
that is fine

simplify the chords analyze what kind of chord it is and play it
your way

the first chord in that example is just an Amajor 7 the second chord is an Ab minor 7

so play your version of the chord keeping the melody note on top

you now have a simplified version of those two chords


you can do this for the whole song you can even write chord symbols above the music I used to do this all the time and it bailed me out of many a situation

it is not cheating it is translating the music into a language you can understand now,


you still had to read it to do the translation
you just cant read that fast so you have to translate it to a medium you can perform


next how do you read for improv knowledge

well take that same group of chords

what if you took each chord and moved it around the cycle of fifths

or chromatically

or inserted one of the chords into a song you already play

this is how a piece of sheet music can develop your vocabulary.



what are some important things to note when reading a GIA piece of music


timing
the  timing and syncopations are written in there so study them and attempt to learn them

you will be surprised at how good you will begin to sound when those syncopations begin to pop in your impromptu playing.


chords and voicings

some of the chords by some of the composerss are really tight especially the stuff that comes out of the hampton crowd

people like robert wooten
and joseph joubert roger holland
gail jones murphy
and even eddie robinson

I just gave you some authors to start to explore

their music is beautiful and you could learn a lot by attempting to play some of their music,


you can scan the music or 2 - 5 1 progressions

endings

interludes etc


mean while use your ear as you read
use it to detect what is going on in the music and how you could use it elsewhere
and where have you heard it before,

next separate the performance from just learning to sight read
here is the most tedious but also the most valuble practice

play slowly and get every note right
play a measure over and over always keeping your eye on the page
discipline is the foundation to knowledge
and here we must endeavor to exercise discipline by not looking at our hands
feeling the keys and let our fingers find the right notes


it takes practice and faith in God and in the process



I hope this blesses some of you as much as the revalation of this knowledge has blessed me,





To be or not to be that is the question you anwer when you pray practice and read your word

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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2008, 11:04:12 AM »
OK this has got to be one of your best posts ever.


some of us hear reading and we cringe or we say we can read when in reality we just know how to identify some notes

OUCH!!! This is me right here. I say i can read when all i can do is identify some notes. I have been practicing though and am slowly getting better at actually reading, not just knowing note names.
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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2008, 11:24:21 AM »
OK this has got to be one of your best posts ever.

OUCH!!! This is me right here. I say i can read when all i can do is identify some notes. I have been practicing though and am slowly getting better at actually reading, not just knowing note names.
Amen!!! Somebody give this man a Ab on the organ...my God you're preachin :o :o :o
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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2008, 12:12:11 PM »
Amen!!! Somebody give this man a Ab on the organ...my God you're preachin :o :o :o

**Hits Ab but realizes someone has tranposed the board to Db**

Sorry D, looks like you're gonna have to preach in Db instead.  ;D
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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2008, 04:10:07 PM »
**Hits Ab but realizes someone has tranposed the board to Db**

Sorry D, looks like you're gonna have to preach in Db instead.  ;D

you stooopid

not stupid as in retarded but stoooopid as a real comedian


we need to link up one day

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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2008, 09:35:02 PM »
you stooopid

not stupid as in retarded but stoooopid as a real comedian


we need to link up one day



I understand.

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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 10:04:40 PM »
you stooopid
not stupid as in retarded but stoooopid as a real comedian
we need to link up one day

And you, sir are sick - not sick as in ill but SICK as in PLAYIN!!! :)

Total Cosign to your post - reading and improvisation should not be so divorced in our music...

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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 10:24:46 PM »
Diverse, When are we gonna get to hear you play?

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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 10:28:00 PM »
Diverse, When are we gonna get to hear you play?

I dunno if i am even ready for that level of beastness.
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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2008, 10:33:12 PM »
I dunno if i am even ready for that level of beastness.

I know He's somewhere in NYC. I'd like to go hear him one sunday.

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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2008, 12:03:08 AM »
Thanks 4 the Post Diverse. Alot of musicinas need this information doc because alot of the church musicians cant further themselves in music because the fact that they can not read or cant talk the lauange. This is something that I experience when i tried to go to school for music the first thing they wanted to know was can I read so I had to leave a university and end up going to a community college because they understood my church background and they was willing to work with me and get my chops up so the Lord gave me favor. If that would not happen I dont know what I would have did because music is all I know. So for the musicians that read these post please take it serious U never know when BET OR American Idol might call u for the gig and they tell u to show up next week and they will have the material for u and u have ur hand out thinking they are going to hand u a cd and they hand you the sheet music :o
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Re: Reading and playing by ear they were never supposed to be separated
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2008, 08:44:04 AM »
I thank everyone for their very kind words but to set the record straight I am not a beast

I pray one day I will be that beast we all have inside of us waiting to get out out and spit chords and runs

I think my strength in my playing is my diversity

although I function probably on an intermediate level on the organ I also function at about the same level on piano and pipe organ and bass and acoustic guitar

to further this I can play traditional and contemporary hymns and classical and jazz all on about the same level.

it is this that I feel makes me an asset to a ministry
plus because I can read and play by ear I grow every day
so my growth curve is pretty steep.
but it is growth that is spread out accros a broad field which makes it difficult to ascend to a high degree of skill in any one area.



so I am growing accross a broad field

but to say I am a beast no
a competent musician who has a firm grasp on the basics
I could accept that.



I am working on developing a little video studio so that I can record my playing and possibly download some lesson clips

for the newbies

So dont get it twisted I am not a beat right now

but stay tuned for the transformation



because its coming.'


 
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