Wow this really helps.But for me I think of melodies in my head that i play on the keyboard and it helps me get the note.Melodies that i play often i know the seperate notes and can pick them up,little runs like in I will bless the Lord(Eb-Gb-Ab-Bb) those seperate notes i can pick up,Also for simple songs like Mary had a little lamb,happy birthday,and Twinkle twinkle little star. If i try to find a key by relating it to another key it doesnt work for me because my ear automatically tunes to that key and i loose the note i heard.This is real hard to explain hope i dont sound crazy.God Bless!!