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passing move
« on: June 18, 2008, 11:29:53 AM »
I haven't been posting anything lately because going through something; however, I am going to post this


this is a passing move to go to the 2 in the key of Ab

while holding the sustain pedel you try this

FCF/EbGAbC
     /DbFGbBb
     /AbCDbF

then release the sustanin pedel and play this chord after

BbFC/C#FAbC

the sound is distonic in the beginning but it is a sweet move

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Re: passing move
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2008, 05:24:46 PM »
wow..thanks alot for this jjjoe...now my 6 to the 2 will not be routine & dull..
Please post more of this stuff..I love it 8)
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Re: passing move
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 12:05:26 PM »
Thanks jjjoe!! I am always looking for passing chords to help make my playing more complete. God bless you!!
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Re: passing move
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 02:41:38 PM »
Having played this, I think it's ultra hot..It was one of the missing elements in my playing.

I'd be very delighted to have more of these.

I know things are not going well for you Joe, so I'm really grateful for you taking this time to post these.
You're still in my prayers sir. :)
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Re: passing move
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 07:57:03 PM »
Take that BbFC/C#FAbC and try two things

1 pj morgan suggest in his dvd for a practice routine to play whole steps, So I would take this chords and play it in whole steps it produces sweet movements

2 here is a progression

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
EbBbF/EbGBbEb

another move is this while holding the sustain pedel you try this

FCF/EbGAbC
     /DbFGbBb
     /AbCDbF

then
BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
FCF/AbDbFAb or EbBb/FGBbEb

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Re: passing move
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 08:09:04 PM »
Ha!!!
Now you remind me of that "Taking It Out-Part I" thread 8) 8)

I can tell that this stuff will be ultra cool..
I'll give feedback once I've tried it out.
Thanks a zillion Jjjoe..

Keep up the great work..
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Re: passing move
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 05:58:54 AM »
I love it jjjoe!!! I really do 8)

I can't wait to see what the next 1 will be like 8)
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Re: passing move
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2008, 03:46:34 PM »
Take that BbFC/C#FAbC and try two things

1 pj morgan suggest in his dvd for a practice routine to play whole steps, So I would take this chords and play it in whole steps it produces sweet movements

2 here is a progression

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
EbBbF/EbGBbEb

another move is this while holding the sustain pedel you try this

FCF/EbGAbC
     /DbFGbBb
     /AbCDbF

then
BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
FCF/AbDbFAb or EbBb/FGBbEb


Hmmm, let me try to wrap my brain around this and get back with you. My main problem is understanding how to use this in other keys. I want to make sure that every progression I learn can be transfered to any key. Thanks for taking time to share this with us, and if I'm asking a silly question please just pray for a sistah...LOL ;) ;) ;) ;D
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Re: passing move
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2008, 03:58:00 PM »
I haven't been posting anything lately because going through something; however, I am going to post this


this is a passing move to go to the 2 in the key of Ab

while holding the sustain pedel you try this

FCF/EbGAbC
     /DbFGbBb
     /AbCDbF

then release the sustanin pedel and play this chord after

BbFC/C#FAbC

the sound is distonic in the beginning but it is a sweet move

I got a question, where did u get this from?  The 1st and last chords sound good together, but them inner chords don't really make sense.  So, it's really not a "sweet" move to me cuz it doesn't flow.  Maybe I'm playing wrong, but could u explain it further.

Also, do u keep the sustain pedal down for all 3 of the 1st set of chords, then release and play the last one?
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Re: passing move
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2008, 04:00:48 PM »
Hmmm, let me try to wrap my brain around this and get back with you. My main problem is understanding how to use this in other keys. I want to make sure that every progression I learn can be transfered to any key. Thanks for taking time to share this with us, and if I'm asking a silly question please just pray for a sistah...LOL ;) ;) ;) ;D

This is how I do it Vonne:

Once I've established the key the progression is in, I look at all the chords in the progression in relation to that key--in this case being the key of Ab.
This requires that you can quickly identify all the notes & their numbers in any scale..but this can be attained with practice as you play & think of each note you play as a number.


Ab major scale: Ab/ G#=1; A=#1 or b2; Bb/A#=2; etc, you can complete it ;D
So lemme illustrate with the 1st 3 chords:


2 here is a progression

BbFC/C#FAbC     [2-6-3/4-6-1-3]
DbAb/CEbFAb      [4-1/ 3-5-6-1]
EbBbF/EbGBbEb   [5-2-6/5-7-2-5]

Now you are ready to play that in any key at a snap.. :)
The fingering might be weird in other keys at 1st, but if you patiently hold out, you will be rewarded at the end :)
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Re: passing move
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2008, 05:38:35 PM »
I haven't been posting anything lately because going through something; however, I am going to post this


this is a passing move to go to the 2 in the key of Ab

while holding the sustain pedel you try this

FCF/EbGAbC
     /DbFGbBb
     /AbCDbF

then release the sustanin pedel and play this chord after

BbFC/C#FAbC

the sound is distonic in the beginning but it is a sweet move


With the first three chords you are holding the sustain pedel down like this

hold the sustain pedel first

next play the FCF/EbGAbC

while still holding the sound play this chord (DbFGbBb)

then this chord while holding the sustain pedel (AbCDbF)

then release the sustain pedel then play this chord BbFC/C#FAbC

it is a way to get to the 2 in the key of Ab

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Re: passing move
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2008, 05:59:20 PM »
Hmmm, let me try to wrap my brain around this and get back with you. My main problem is understanding how to use this in other keys. I want to make sure that every progression I learn can be transfered to any key. Thanks for taking time to share this with us, and if I'm asking a silly question please just pray for a sistah...LOL ;) ;) ;) ;D

just like Mussallio says it is a progression you can play.
Take that BbFC/C#FAbC and try three things

1 pj morgan suggest in his dvd for a practice routine to play whole steps, So I would take this chords and play it in whole steps it produces sweet movements

2 here is a progression

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
EbBbF/EbGBbEb

3 here is a progression

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
EbBbF/EbGBbEb
here is a progression

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
EbBbF/EbGBbEb



let me disect what i mean't

in the first example pj morgan was talking about in his Gospel Piano class he was talking about for a good practice routine is play minor 11ths whole steps now if you play the minor 11th slow going whole steps it gives it a nice sound as well as to be able to remember your minor 11th

in the second example here is a progression

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
EbBbF/EbGBbEb

see the progression is going as a 2-4-5 progression.  here is a little simple way to play this

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
EbBb/FGBbEb

see the progression is going as a 2-4-5 like in the song from Vanshawn Mitchell: Over and Over

now in the third example FCF/EbGAbC
                                      /DbFGbBb
                                      /AbCDbF

then
BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
FCF/AbDbFAb or EbBb/FGBbEb

the progession is a 6-2-4-6 or 6-2-4-5

see the FCF/EbGAbC
                /DbFGbBb
                /AbCDbF

you first hold the sustain pedel and play these chords which is a 6 chord but you are stacking chords with the six
then let go of the sustain pedel and play

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
FCF/AbDbFAb

or this set

BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
EbBb/FGBbEb ( which is a substitute for EbBbF/EbGBbEb chord)

hope this helps

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Re: passing move
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2008, 09:13:41 AM »

see the progression is going as a 2-4-5 like in the song from Vanshawn Mitchell: Over and Over

now in the third example FCF/EbGAbC
                                      /DbFGbBb
                                      /AbCDbF

then
BbFC/C#FAbC
DbAb/CEbFAb
FCF/AbDbFAb or EbBb/FGBbEb


You're right. This does sound like VaShawn Mitchell's song. Kim was FYA on that.
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