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Offline Fenix

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Using songbooks
« on: May 14, 2008, 08:28:17 AM »
I am getting really discouraged here. My P&W leader just sent me a song by Israel and New Breed that we should start prepping for. It's called "Deeper".

I wanted to get the songbook but when i saw the sheet music, i just got so discouraged. This is stuff that is really above my level. I can read music, understand time signatures and note values and all that, but i cannot sight-read well enough to play along with the song book in front of me.

I really want to nail this song but if i do it by ear, i KNOW i may not get it as well as the pianist plays it on the CD. :( 

How do ya'll do it when you have to learn a potentially difficult song?
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 08:37:35 AM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 08:28:17 AM
I am getting really discouraged here. My P&W leader just sent me a song by Israel and New Breed that we should start prepping for. It's called "Deeper".

I wanted to get the songbook but when i saw the sheet music, i just got so discouraged. This is stuff that is really above my level. I can read music, understand time signatures and note values and all that, but i cannot sight-read well enough to play along with the song book in front of me.

I really want to nail this song but if i do it by ear, i KNOW i may not get it as well as the pianist plays it on the CD. :( 

How do ya'll do it when you have to learn a potentially difficult song?

If I remember correctly, Israel's songbooks come with the chord notations above the notes, right? If that be so, then learn the chord progressions and add some fillers here and there. Voila, song learned. ;) 8)
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 08:50:40 AM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 14, 2008, 08:37:35 AM
If I remember correctly, Israel's songbooks come with the chord notations above the notes, right? If that be so, then learn the chord progressions and add some fillers here and there. Voila, song learned. ;) 8)

Yeah that is definitely true. I always get this way when i have to learn a new song. My church doesn't stray very far from CCM stuff so when we do have to do some more complicated stuff, i get all flustered and worried. I will go ahead and order the songbook. Plus i can read through the sheet music to see what kind of fillers i need to add.

I feel so much better. Thanks.
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 09:06:57 AM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 08:50:40 AM
Yeah that is definitely true. I always get this way when i have to learn a new song. My church doesn't stray very far from CCM stuff so when we do have to do some more complicated stuff, i get all flustered and worried. I will go ahead and order the songbook. Plus i can read through the sheet music to see what kind of fillers i need to add.

I feel so much better. Thanks.
Glad I could help, bruh.
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 10:28:53 AM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 08:28:17 AM
How do ya'll do it when you have to learn a potentially difficult song?

I take it section by section.  And just like sjon said, those chord symbols above will help you out even more.  Anytime I get a piece of music in school, I automatically go through the whole thing and write in chord symbols.  Most of the students don't, but I do because I'm a harmonic learner. 

I can read the notes good, but seeing the chord symbols above help to reinforce the notes to me.  I know if I see a Cm above a chord, then I see the notes C, E, & G on the staff, chances are the Eb is in the key singature so I know to play C, Eb, & G.  They also help me to remember the song better cuz I can use the symbols to learn the progression of th song.
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2008, 10:46:01 AM »
Is this the song?



And a piano demo...



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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 11:39:53 AM »
Quote from: betnich on May 14, 2008, 10:46:01 AM
Is this the song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrsoZKUfc4g

And a piano demo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9c2gC0D3Nw&feature=related




Yep thats it. It doesn't seem hard at all. I will just throw in a lot arps. Its the intro i am trying to get. The chorus is easy enough.
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 11:49:04 AM »
Quote from: betnich on May 14, 2008, 10:46:01 AM
Is this the song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrsoZKUfc4g

And a piano demo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9c2gC0D3Nw&feature=related




Wait, i did a double take there. You mean to tell me that Israel is a beast on the piano AND guitar?
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 11:57:04 AM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 11:49:04 AM
Wait, i did a double take there. You mean to tell me that Israel is a beast on the piano AND guitar?

In a word, yes.
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 12:00:08 PM »
Am I the only person in the world who does not like Isreal's Music?
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 12:04:23 PM »
Quote from: under13 on May 14, 2008, 12:00:08 PM
Am I the only person in the world who does not like Isreal's Music?

I got extra pitchforks and burning torches in case anyone wants to form an enraged mob and inflict grevious bodily harm on U-13. 8)
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2008, 12:08:23 PM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
I got extra pitchforks and burning torches in case anyone wants to form an enraged mob and inflict grevious bodily harm on U-13. 8)

Count. me. in.  >:(

Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
I got extra pitchforks and burning torches in case anyone wants to form an enraged mob and inflict grevious bodily harm on U-13. 8)

In a word, yes. ::)
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 12:09:25 PM »
no blow darts?


FENIX 'N DEM
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2008, 12:22:45 PM »
Quote from: under13 on May 14, 2008, 12:09:25 PM
no blow darts?


FENIX 'N DEM



Ninja, you just went over the edge. I would be watching my back for the next couple of days if i were you. 8)

We Nigerians know each other and there is nowhere you can hide.
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2008, 12:24:53 PM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on May 14, 2008, 12:08:23 PM
Count. me. in.  >:(

In a word, yes. ::)

"in a word, yes" is the new "Indeed" 8)
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2008, 12:26:19 PM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 12:24:53 PM
"in a word, yes" is the new "Indeed" 8)

 ;) 8)
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2008, 11:33:38 PM »
Quote from: under13 on May 14, 2008, 12:00:08 PM
Am I the only person in the world who does not like Isreal's Music?

NO!!!!  (shhhhhhh!!!)
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2008, 01:26:24 AM »
Quote from: under13 on May 14, 2008, 12:00:08 PM
Am I the only person in the world who does not like Isreal's Music?


He's an acquired taste - too lite jazz to really be gospel for me...but still I found myself singing 'Friend of God' today...

Like his piano better than guitar,

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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2008, 06:31:46 AM »
Quote from: betnich on May 15, 2008, 01:26:24 AM

He's an acquired taste -

 ;)

That's how I feel about Tye and 'nem. ::) ;) AND, James Hall.
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Re: Using songbooks
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2008, 06:58:22 AM »
Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
I got extra pitchforks and burning torches in case anyone wants to form an enraged mob and inflict grevious bodily harm on U-13. 8)

At once let's charge in!!

Quote from: Fenix on May 14, 2008, 12:24:53 PM
"in a word, yes" is the new "Indeed" 8)

in a word, yes :D
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