A controversial question- to those who are in a relationship or married

[w42879]

So true!!!!!I can't tell you how many debates I've been in regarding "my business". Is there any better way to glorify God than to be able to say I USE to do whatever and God has delivered me. I thank God Almighty that I have been set free from my past and can share any parts of it openly. Proud of it-No. No longer condemned-Yes!

That is very correct Sir. Had it wasn't for God's grace where would any of us be. We should not be ashamed of where the Lord has brought us from. Be encouraged godsbassman2000!

[Churching]

Chevonee, counseling and much prayer is certainly in order for the husband and wife individually and as a couple.  His behavior is definitely indicative of the existence of a lust issue that he must first  acknowledged. Hopefully he will see the NEED to ask God to purge his heart and mind from sexually llicit thoughts and to give his wife the strength to honor and support him in his struggle for deliverance.

Please understand that I in no way want to give the impression that this brother is not responsible for his actions, but let's be honest that spirit of lust is so prevalent and at some point has touched us all in one way or the other.  Maybe we didn't look at pornography, but what about our thoughts etc... (Let's just be honest) Sometimes as women we don't do very much to help the imaginations of men to stay in check, by the conversations that we allow them to have with us, the things that we do and the places we go, and LAWD the things that we WEAR. As you know true deliverance can only be achieved through partnership with God (You must first want to be delivered).

Let's pray for our brother and sister and their family, Satan would love to destroy it.  I don't know your friends, but I will join you in interceeding on their behalf, Satan has had to many victories at the family's
expense.  Let's join together and pray for this family.  And wait for your praise report.  I BELIEVE GOD CAN BIND, HEAL AND DELIVER. 

[Churching]

I automatically also assumed that the husband was the one struggling with the lust issue.  But nothing has changed whether it's the man or woman God is the only one that can bring true delivnce and healing.
This really shouldn't be too shocking because we as woman struggle with lust issues as well.  Let's pray for the family.

[w42879]

I automatically also assumed that the husband was the one struggling with the lust issue.  But nothing has changed whether it's the man or woman God is the only one that can bring true delivnce and healing.
This really shouldn't be too shocking because we as woman struggle with lust issues as well.  Let's pray for the family.

That's usually what everyone assumes but the devil doesn't care who or what he attacks just as long as he get's the job done.

[Steelpulz]

I would see if they wanted help with the problem that they have.
If they do then proceed forward in that direction. A good Christian counselor can help greatly.
If they don't then I don't have any good advice other than prayer (which should be #1 regardless).

Understand this, though; sexual sin is one of the most difficult things to overcome (voice of experience, here) and it requires the sinner (let's all raise our hands, now) to constantly run to the Word of God for safety and for restoration. Just speaking that name above all names can be enough to deliver us from evil.

Realize that the world is very quick to want to stone the sexual sinner while Jesus was very quick to answer "go and sin no more". 

Amen to that!

[BBoy]

Recommend that they see their pastor.

Y'all just knew that was coming, didn't ya? 

BBoy

[under13]

Recommend that they see their pastor.

Y'all just knew that was coming, didn't ya? 

BBoy

The last person I'd see

[changedman]

...okay now I KNOW I'm sleepy...


Listen here....


If you catch your spouse looking at porn
Don't be afraid, maybe a little "warned"
There may be a message trying to get through
About some things you said YOU would never do.

Things you don't like, yet they desire
Yet before you do them you'd walk through fire
So they look at the picture to get a li'l buzz
Caring less about which city Debbie does.

Now, the marriage bed is undefiled
But RUN LIKE H*** if they look at a child
'Cause doing that crap is just plain sick
Call Johnnie Cochran, and call him quick!!

But if there's a video up on the mantle
Next time give'em something they just can't handle
You have what it takes to please your mate
Go on to the courts, don't stop at the gate.

People do get bored with the same old thing
Next time, reach under the pillow and pull out a ring
If his (or her) pleasure is your main concern
The girl on the poster won't make him yearn.

Don't always be so wrapped up into you
Boasting and bragging what you'll never do
And why would you run to a therapist and pay
For what could be solved if you simply pray?

Put those limits back up on that shelf
Don't give him time THINK about nobody else
Pull out some stuff he's sure to enjoy
He might be your husband, but ol' boy's still a boy!

And if you don't want mister to be untrue
Then be on your job, make it do what it do!
And case you ain't figured, I'll give you a clue
E'ry thing done to him...already done to you!

[under13]

...okay now I KNOW I'm sleepy...


Listen here....


If you catch your spouse looking at porn
Don't be afraid, maybe a little "warned"
There may be a message trying to get through
About some things you said YOU would never do.

Things you don't like, yet they desire
Yet before you do them you'd walk through fire
So they look at the picture to get a li'l buzz
Caring less about which city Debbie does.

Now, the marriage bed is undefiled
But RUN LIKE H*** if they look at a child
'Cause doing that crap is just plain sick
Call Johnnie Cochran, and call him quick!!

But if there's a video up on the mantle
Next time give'em something they just can't handle
You have what it takes to please your mate
Go on to the courts, don't stop at the gate.

People do get bored with the same old thing
Next time, reach under the pillow and pull out a ring
If his (or her) pleasure is your main concern
The girl on the poster won't make him yearn.

Don't always be so wrapped up into you
Boasting and bragging what you'll never do
And why would you run to a therapist and pay
For what could be solved if you simply pray?

Put those limits back up on that shelf
Don't give him time THINK about nobody else
Pull out some stuff he's sure to enjoy
He might be your husband, but ol' boy's still a boy!

And if you don't want mister to be untrue
Then be on your job, make it do what it do!
And case you ain't figured, I'll give you a clue
E'ry thing done to him...already done to you!

I started to go there, but I didnt feel like gettin flamed

This situation could have been avoided with some conversation

[changedman]

Naw dude...I wasn't trying to go there for real.

IMHO I agree with BBoy.  Some things are better answered through Godly counsel, and NOT from "friends who appear Godly" either.  It's one of those Pastor-parishioner issues to me.  Honestly.

But I've been up making Valentine Cards all night writing sappy love poems off the cuff on 20-something cards, so my reply just flowed "by accident".

My bad.

[chevonee]

...okay now I KNOW I'm sleepy...


Listen here....


If you catch your spouse looking at porn
Don't be afraid, maybe a little "warned"
There may be a message trying to get through
About some things you said YOU would never do.

Things you don't like, yet they desire
Yet before you do them you'd walk through fire
So they look at the picture to get a li'l buzz
Caring less about which city Debbie does.

Now, the marriage bed is undefiled
But RUN LIKE H*** if they look at a child
'Cause doing that crap is just plain sick
Call Johnnie Cochran, and call him quick!!

But if there's a video up on the mantle
Next time give'em something they just can't handle
You have what it takes to please your mate
Go on to the courts, don't stop at the gate.

People do get bored with the same old thing
Next time, reach under the pillow and pull out a ring
If his (or her) pleasure is your main concern
The girl on the poster won't make him yearn.

Don't always be so wrapped up into you
Boasting and bragging what you'll never do
And why would you run to a therapist and pay
For what could be solved if you simply pray?

Put those limits back up on that shelf
Don't give him time THINK about nobody else
Pull out some stuff he's sure to enjoy
He might be your husband, but ol' boy's still a boy!

And if you don't want mister to be untrue
Then be on your job, make it do what it do!
And case you ain't figured, I'll give you a clue
E'ry thing done to him...already done to you!

You are a man with unquestionable wisdom....seriously!

[changedman]

That's the new word for sleep deprivation?  Lol.

[pastors4jesus3]

That's usually what everyone assumes but the devil doesn't care who or what he attacks just as long as he get's the job done.

I agree with you brother WJ. The devil does not care who he uses. This subject has been heavily on my mind because I can just feel that there are many people who are hiding from the truth. On this past Sunday, I asked the question What are you hiding? That was based on the story of Achan attempting to hide his theft. The people of God are walking around carrying burdens that could easily be removed if you just fess up. Deliverance from things of this nature can only be resolved through the acknowledgement of the problem itself. I would like to think Sister chevonee for exposing things that no one else has the courage to uncover.


Pastor Robison

[pastor rob]

Y'all are the only two people I know who type with an accent, lol.

that is funny! when i read their post i hear and southern accent to. but then again maybe i'm crazy! 

[pastor rob]

The last person I'd see

why? 

[chevonee]

that is funny! when i read their post i hear and southern accent to. but then again maybe i'm crazy! 

YEAS INDEE-DEE!!!

[w42879]

I agree with you brother WJ. The devil does not care who he uses. This subject has been heavily on my mind because I can just feel that there are many people who are hiding from the truth. On this past Sunday, I asked the question What are you hiding? That was based on the story of Achan attempting to hide his theft. The people of God are walking around carrying burdens that could easily be removed if you just fess up. Deliverance from things of this nature can only be resolved through the acknowledgement of the problem itself. I would like to think Sister chevonee for exposing things that no one else has the courage to uncover.


Pastor Robison

Thanks Pastor Robison, this subject came up at my church yesterday. The first thing that I thought about was this thread right here. It is amazing how many people look good on the outside but ruined on the inside. We truly have a battle on our hands and we will not win it without exposing the devil for who is truly is. We can't just dismiss looking at dirty pictures as "a man being a man"....it must be called what it is. Be encouraged everyone.

[under13]

why? 

I'd rather see a trained relationship therapist. If it happens to be another pastor then cool, but I would not feel comfortable discussing our sex life with someone like my pastor.

I honestly think that that this whole problem could have been avoided if the couple were to have had an honest conversation about thier intmate life.

[w42879]

I'd rather see a trained relationship therapist. If it happens to be another pastor then cool, but I would not feel comfortable discussing our sex life with someone like my pastor.

I honestly think that that this whole problem could have been avoided if the couple were to have had an honest conversation about thier intmate life.

It's unfortunate but there are some people that one can not trust. You are correct about the fact that things can be avoided, the problem is that each individual must evaluate themselves or else all the talking in the world will not correct this type of problem. I am a man that has experienced this and I can say with a certainty that my spouse and I talked but I failed to evaluate myself daily in the word of God. It's not always the fault of the spouse that things of this sort happens. Be encouraged

[chevonee]

It's unfortunate but there are some people that one can not trust. You are correct about the fact that things can be avoided, the problem is that each individual must evaluate themselves or else all the talking in the world will not correct this type of problem. I am a man that has experienced this and I can say with a certainty that my spouse and I talked but I failed to evaluate myself daily in the word of God. It's not always the fault of the spouse that things of this sort happens. Be encouraged

AMEN WJ!!! God is the glue that keeps us together. When God is where he belongs in any relationship, there is no room for the devil. But when God is not where he belongs, the devil steps in. I am so tired of people making excuses for everything...no matter what the situation is there is no excuse for infidelity. Folks need to quit saying that someone pushed them to do something because Jesus took all of our excuses to the cross and left them there. You mean to tell me that God has power to raise people from the dead, turn water into wine, deliver the Hebrew boys from the fiery furnace...but he doesn't have enough power to help you stay faithful...THATS RIDICULOUS!! The truth is, we can be faithful and avoid temptation if we want to....If a person wants to do something bad enough, they will do whatever it takes to do it...