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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2007, 10:52:53 AM »
(The Philadelphia Experiment) I was fairly dissapointed, like, ok I gues he really is just a 1 2 3, A B C kind of player.


I have to remember how good da fam is some of u cats been on gospelchops.  that like the black modern drummer

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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2007, 01:03:09 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A59dqTC2a18


never here much bout quest


(The Philadelphia Experiment) I was fairly dissapointed, like, ok I gues he really is just a 1 2 3, A B C kind of player.


I have to remember how good da fam is some of u cats been on gospelchops.  that like the black modern drummer


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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2007, 01:31:36 PM »
Got confusion?

                                                                                                           
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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2007, 01:46:42 PM »
Under Rated?  Are you kidding?  Questlove has to be the most foundation of music today of drummers.  This brother can lay down groove, lay down groove, lay down groove, lay down groove, lay down groove.  If you see him as a 1 2 3 A B C kind of player, you really have no definition of what true complexity is. 
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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2007, 02:00:24 PM »
Questlove has to be the most foundation of music today of drummers.  



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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2007, 03:46:01 PM »
not like this gets me any clout around these parts, but I used to watch him on South Street is philly with his little 3 piece set up.  What im saying is he taught me without knowing it how to really play..
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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2007, 04:26:08 PM »
not like this gets me any clout around these parts, but I used to watch him on South Street is philly with his little 3 piece set up.  What im saying is he taught me without knowing it how to really play..
123ABC all day long!!!!!  When you can "hear the inside of a person  on the outside " then you got it!!!

wow u got mad respect in my book thats just something we down south cats dream of man all we have to look up to is john blackwell ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2007, 04:26:23 PM »
   



while respecting his accomplishments in the music industry, i'm gonna have to second that...

I third it. He definetly seems like a cool dude though, but as far as a drummer he's defintly good at what he does, but given his spot I think any main stream or even most solid amature drummers would have no problem doing what he does. I'm talking discipline musicians, not chop addicts.
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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2007, 04:31:42 PM »
Got confusion?

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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2007, 08:16:47 PM »
Now hear this.  Quest is good at what he does.  123,ABC.  That pays his bills.  Im happy for him but I dont play to pay bills.  I play for the adventure.  He is not underated.  He is a non-talked about drummer for a reason.  You never see him in anyone's top or favorite drummer's list for a reason.  Hence the fact that a thread like this even has to get started.  His image out-weighs his talent.  Just face it. 

Now, take Vinnie and put him with the roots.  Take Chris Dave and put him with the roots.  Take "The Bishop" Thomas Pridgen and put him with the roots.  Take Spanky and put him with the roots.  What do you get?  Go ahead and answer for yourself.

Now, take Quest and put him with Alan Holdsworth.  Then put him with Robert Glasper.  Then put him with The Mars Volta.  Then put him with Tye Tribbett.  What do you get?- Wait I wanna answer this...a disaster!!!   :D  :D

My point is, there are too many musicians who can do what he does musically and probably do it a lot better.  And by his particular genera of works, it seems as though he can only do one thing.  Hurray for Quest!!!  He is severly lacking in versatility and until I hear him step out of that elementary box of basic hip-hop drumming, then I cant personally rate him any higher.



And to Mr. Lumpkin, there is no need to challenge me sir.  I know what true complexity is.  Its............whatever ?love does'nt play.   :P 

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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2007, 09:22:11 PM »
Psalms 144.1 - "Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle."

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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2007, 09:37:31 PM »
Now hear this.  Quest is good at what he does.  123,ABC.  That pays his bills.  Im happy for him but I dont play to pay bills.  I play for the adventure.  He is not underated.  He is a non-talked about drummer for a reason.  You never see him in anyone's top or favorite drummer's list for a reason.  Hence the fact that a thread like this even has to get started.  His image out-weighs his talent.  Just face it. 

Now, take Vinnie and put him with the roots.  Take Chris Dave and put him with the roots.  Take "The Bishop" Thomas Pridgen and put him with the roots.  Take Spanky and put him with the roots.  What do you get?  Go ahead and answer for yourself.

Now, take Quest and put him with Alan Holdsworth.  Then put him with Robert Glasper.  Then put him with The Mars Volta.  Then put him with Tye Tribbett.  What do you get?- Wait I wanna answer this...a disaster!!!   :D  :D
My point is, there are too many musicians who can do what he does musically and probably do it a lot better.  And by his particular genera of works, it seems as though he can only do one thing.  Hurray for Quest!!!  He is severly lacking in versatility and until I hear him step out of that elementary box of basic hip-hop drumming, then I cant personally rate him any higher.



And to Mr. Lumpkin, there is no need to challenge me sir.  I know what true complexity is.  Its............whatever ?love does'nt play.   :P 



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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2007, 10:13:42 PM »
Now hear this.  Quest is good at what he does.  123,ABC.  That pays his bills.  Im happy for him but I dont play to pay bills.  I play for the adventure.  He is not underated.  He is a non-talked about drummer for a reason.  You never see him in anyone's top or favorite drummer's list for a reason.  Hence the fact that a thread like this even has to get started.  His image out-weighs his talent.  Just face it. 

Now, take Vinnie and put him with the roots.  Take Chris Dave and put him with the roots.  Take "The Bishop" Thomas Pridgen and put him with the roots.  Take Spanky and put him with the roots.  What do you get?  Go ahead and answer for yourself.

Now, take Quest and put him with Alan Holdsworth.  Then put him with Robert Glasper.  Then put him with The Mars Volta.  Then put him with Tye Tribbett.  What do you get?- Wait I wanna answer this...a disaster!!!   :D  :D

 
My point is, there are too many musicians who can do what he does musically and probably do it a lot better.  And by his particular genera of works, it seems as though he can only do one thing.  Hurray for Quest!!!  He is severly lacking in versatility and until I hear him step out of that elementary box of basic hip-hop drumming, then I cant personally rate him any higher.

And to Mr. Lumpkin, there is no need to challenge me sir.  I know what true complexity is.  Its............whatever ?love does'nt play.   :P 


Now hear THIS, sir.

Its fine that you play music for the adventure.  I will not allow you to bash a man for making the decision to sustain himself by playing music.  You do not know why he plays the gigs that he does.  All you can do is specualte.

Ok, so you saw an advertisement that had ?uest's likeness in it.  His body of work is emense.  The man plays tracks that sound programed.  Do you realize just how hard it can be to immitate a track?  Its truly the things that he doesn't play that makes him a great player.  With the way you're talking, you probably think that Gadd is just another guy too.

Now as far as the whole "take 'x' player and put him here" argument, that is totally bogus.  Ok, for arguments sake, put Jeff "Tain" Watts, or Terreon Gully with Tye and see what happens....  That'll be REAL interesting.  Even cats of simular background will sound different simply because of their approach to the music.  I can 100% promise you that if you me and you played with the same cats and played the exact same songs, they'd sound different.  So who is better than who?

And whats wrong with being a music specialist?  Is Elvin Jones, Max Roach, or Buddy Rich any less great becaude they only played "jazz" and never cared to play a back beat?  If everyone did everything, who would teach someone the true art of a specific genere?  Because remember... there are no masters of any ONE craft.

Get in where you fit in and give this guy the respect that he deserves as a musician.

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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2007, 10:19:18 PM »
WOW..now this is going to be interesting....ok round 2...



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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2007, 10:37:10 PM »


Now hear THIS, sir.

Its fine that you play music for the adventure.  I will not allow you to bash a man for making the decision to sustain himself by playing music.  You do not know why he plays the gigs that he does.  All you can do is specualte.

Ok, so you saw an advertisement that had ?uest's likeness in it.  His body of work is emense.  The man plays tracks that sound programed.  Do you realize just how hard it can be to immitate a track?  Its truly the things that he doesn't play that makes him a great player.  With the way you're talking, you probably think that Gadd is just another guy too.

Now as far as the whole "take 'x' player and put him here" argument, that is totally bogus.  Ok, for arguments sake, put Jeff "Tain" Watts, or Terreon Gully with Tye and see what happens....  That'll be REAL interesting.  Even cats of simular background will sound different simply because of their approach to the music.  I can 100% promise you that if you me and you played with the same cats and played the exact same songs, they'd sound different.  So who is better than who?

And whats wrong with being a music specialist?  Is Elvin Jones, Max Roach, or Buddy Rich any less great becaude they only played "jazz" and never cared to play a back beat?  If everyone did everything, who would teach someone the true art of a specific genere?  Because remember... there are no masters of any ONE craft.

Get in where you fit in and give this guy the respect that he deserves as a musician.

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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2007, 10:59:39 PM »
lol...@ funky..



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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2007, 11:25:09 PM »


Now hear THIS, sir.

Its fine that you play music for the adventure.  I will not allow you to bash a man for making the decision to sustain himself by playing music.  You do not know why he plays the gigs that he does.  All you can do is specualte.

Ok, so you saw an advertisement that had ?uest's likeness in it.  His body of work is emense.  The man plays tracks that sound programed.  Do you realize just how hard it can be to immitate a track?  Its truly the things that he doesn't play that makes him a great player.  With the way you're talking, you probably think that Gadd is just another guy too.

Now as far as the whole "take 'x' player and put him here" argument, that is totally bogus.  Ok, for arguments sake, put Jeff "Tain" Watts, or Terreon Gully with Tye and see what happens....  That'll be REAL interesting.  Even cats of simular background will sound different simply because of their approach to the music.  I can 100% promise you that if you me and you played with the same cats and played the exact same songs, they'd sound different.  So who is better than who?

And whats wrong with being a music specialist?  Is Elvin Jones, Max Roach, or Buddy Rich any less great becaude they only played "jazz" and never cared to play a back beat?  If everyone did everything, who would teach someone the true art of a specific genere?  Because remember... there are no masters of any ONE craft.

Get in where you fit in and give this guy the respect that he deserves as a musician.

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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2007, 11:29:16 PM »


Now hear THIS, sir.

Its fine that you play music for the adventure.  I will not allow you to bash a man for making the decision to sustain himself by playing music.  You do not know why he plays the gigs that he does.  All you can do is specualte.

Ok, so you saw an advertisement that had ?uest's likeness in it.  His body of work is emense.  The man plays tracks that sound programed.  Do you realize just how hard it can be to immitate a track?  Its truly the things that he doesn't play that makes him a great player.  With the way you're talking, you probably think that Gadd is just another guy too.

Now as far as the whole "take 'x' player and put him here" argument, that is totally bogus.  Ok, for arguments sake, put Jeff "Tain" Watts, or Terreon Gully with Tye and see what happens....  That'll be REAL interesting.  Even cats of simular background will sound different simply because of their approach to the music.  I can 100% promise you that if you me and you played with the same cats and played the exact same songs, they'd sound different.  So who is better than who?

And whats wrong with being a music specialist?  Is Elvin Jones, Max Roach, or Buddy Rich any less great becaude they only played "jazz" and never cared to play a back beat?  If everyone did everything, who would teach someone the true art of a specific genere?  Because remember... there are no masters of any ONE craft.

Get in where you fit in and give this guy the respect that he deserves as a musician.

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Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa!  Youre applauding the fact that this guy is a "hip-hop speacialist!"  LOL!   :D  I didnt know there was a such thing!  LOL!  Ok Juse, and the rest of the "Afro Thunder" boxer/drummer fans, how many of you want to only be known for mastering the art of hip-hop drumming?  How many of you want to forget what a tom sounds like!   :D  Well...I dont hear any bangs and clashes from you all throwing all of your toms and cymbals in the dumpster!  Lets go people!  Let us all walk in the shadow of the Great Hip-Hop Chia Pet/Drummer!   :D  You guys are unbelievable.  You measure a guys greatness by how many cats Dont talk about him and his dominance as a one diminsional drummer!  LOL!   :D



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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2007, 11:34:08 PM »


Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa!  Youre applauding the fact that this guy is a "hip-hop speacialist!"  LOL!   :D  I didnt know there was a such thing!  LOL!  Ok Juse, and the rest of the "Afro Thunder" boxer/drummer fans, how many of you want to only be known for mastering the art of hip-hop drumming?  How many of you want to forget what a tom sounds like!   :D  Well...I dont hear any bangs and clashes from you all throwing all of your toms and cymbals in the dumpster!  Lets go people!  Let us all walk in the shadow of the Great Hip-Hop Chia Pet/Drummer!   :D  You guys are unbelievable.  You measure a guys greatness by how many cats Dont talk about him and his dominance as a one diminsional drummer!  LOL!   :D



There is oft complexity in simplicity. 

I think that we should just agree to disagree.  :-\
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Re: under rated ?love
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2007, 11:36:05 PM »
And about immitating a drum track.  There is nothing impressive about that.  And why would anyone want to do that?  Why would you want to take a human element and mechanize it?  Let an MPC be an MPC.  Drummers should be drummers.  Period. 
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