Serious inquiry by me....intellectual responses only please

[stiksnmypocket]

well I know it was a recent post where everybody was bashing everybody, and it seems as though certain people are into the "hype" that the kind of gear you choose makes you the player that you are, I've seen many companies being bashed with the products that they put out, but I think people need to understand that everything isn't for everybody, yes there are entry up to pro level kits, but does being able to afford a "pro" level kit make you a pro.... I have a lot of hands on experience with different companies drums, and I can truly say that I haven't heard that big of a difference in a $maple kit and a $3000 maple kit.....I mean its kinda ridiculous, yes some of the names are whack, but keep in mind that drums are trees.... as a matter of fact a lot of times when I make my sale points, I'll say, hey look 2 trees grew up right beside each other in to forest, 1 went to company A 1 went to company B, now they put the same hardware, same edges, same "care"...(yeah right) into the kits,  company A advertises we're the best we did this and that, they tag it for $3000, company B is new, they tag it for $800, keep in mind same hardware same machinery, would compant B suck because they kept a good price point on their kit?

[stiksnmypocket]

i'll finish lata, jus leaving the JOB...lol

[j_kay]

Obviously, marketing drivel is a huge proponent when it comes to assisting a consumer to make a decision on what to buy. 

If we're taking your example by all things being equal, the competitor (in this case, "Company B") will have to counteract their (again, in this case, "Company A") claim regarding being the best.  This would entail Company B outlining a comparison chart (since you've stated that all things are equal).  This would have to be their strategic initiative to be considered as an equal in the consumer's mind.  Here are some examples:

Company A: "Our drums are built with the highest specifications and close tolerances of less than .000001 of an inch.  We also use the highest industrial grade metals, used by NASA.  Because of our extreme attention to detail, our drums tune easier and respond to the lightest touch.  You will have to play them to believe it.  When you do, you'll agree that Company A is the only company that you should choose when you're serious about purchasing a set of drums."

Company B: "Our drums are built with the same quality as Company A.  We purchase shells that are made to our specifications from the same factory as Factory A.  In fact, we also use the same industrial grade metals engineered by NASA.  What sets us apart is the price point.  We feel that you don't have to pay a million dollars to sound like a million dollars."

After that statement (from Company B), they could do a bulleted list that compares and illustrates that Company A's drums are virtually identical to Company B's. 


I've stated the following in two different threads:

...it's the application of how they execute their brand image and products is what makes a brand exciting and sets themselves apart from the competitors within the marketplace (in one's personal preference). 

If it sounds good, play it.  Just make sure that the construction/build quality is up to par, as well as their warranty coverage.  Use comparables to ensure that these are met (read: construction/build quality and warranty coverage). 

There could also be other things to look for, but these are (a few of) the most important things when an astute consumer looks to purchase something. 

[Lildrummaboy66]

Obviously, marketing drivel is a huge proponent when it comes to assisting a consumer to make a decision on what to buy. 

If we're taking your example by all things being equal, the competitor (in this case, "Company B") will have to counteract their (again, in this case, "Company A") claim regarding being the best.  This would entail Company B outlining a comparison chart (since you've stated that all things are equal).  This would have to be their strategic initiative to be considered as an equal in the consumer's mind.  Here are some examples:

Company A: "Our drums are built with the highest specifications and close tolerances of less than .000001 of an inch.  We also use the highest industrial grade metals, used by NASA.  Because of our extreme attention to detail, our drums tune easier and respond to the lightest touch.  You will have to play them to believe it.  When you do, you'll agree that Company A is the only company that you should choose when you're serious about purchasing a set of drums."

Company B: "Our drums are built with the same quality as Company A.  We purchase shells that are made to our specifications from the same factory as Factory A.  In fact, we also use the same industrial grade metals engineered by NASA.  What sets us apart is the price point.  We feel that you don't have to pay a million dollars to sound like a million dollars."

After that statement (from Company B), they could do a bulleted list that compares and illustrates that Company A's drums are virtually identical to Company B's. 


I've stated the following in two different threads:

hey bro i read those two threads when they were origianlly posted, and seriously there is nothing left to say; j_kay sums it all up!

[juSe]

well I know it was a recent post where everybody was bashing everybody, and it seems as though certain people are into the "hype" that the kind of gear you choose makes you the player that you are, I've seen many companies being bashed with the products that they put out, but I think people need to understand that everything isn't for everybody, yes there are entry up to pro level kits, but does being able to afford a "pro" level kit make you a pro.... I have a lot of hands on experience with different companies drums, and I can truly say that I haven't heard that big of a difference in a $maple kit and a $3000 maple kit.....I mean its kinda ridiculous, yes some of the names are whack, but keep in mind that drums are trees.... as a matter of fact a lot of times when I make my sale points, I'll say, hey look 2 trees grew up right beside each other in to forest, 1 went to company A 1 went to company B, now they put the same hardware, same edges, same "care"...(yeah right) into the kits,  company A advertises we're the best we did this and that, they tag it for $3000, company B is new, they tag it for $800, keep in mind same hardware same machinery, would compant B suck because they kept a good price point on their kit?

For some reason my mind goes back to this statement...

I say that its the drummer's fault because he plays Ddrum.  How can he hold himself to a higher standard if he is playing on gear that doesn't match the profile that he is playing on?  I'm not kidding... I think he should think about steppin his game up on the gear...  Its also the umbrellas fault for not being that hedge of protection that it was supposed to be.

This was a tongue-in-cheek statement.  No, I am not a fan of Ddrum for a couple of reasons.  I have not had extensive contact with their kits, but the contact that I had with them, I was not impressed.  I am also not a fan of their snares.  Played them...  Wasn't wowed.  They are also an up-start company.  The longevity of the company is tbd.  From what I have heard from cats that have owned Ddrums, they are not much to write home about.  Now to the statement of a player being better or worse because of the gear they play?  TOTALLY not true.  I have seen cats gig around town on Pearl Exports and Yamaha Stage Customs... the OLD SCHOOL joints no less.  I personally do not want to do that.  I play around too much to play on gear that i don't feel can take it. 

Now to the second statement....  We both know that this doesn't happen.  In a perfect world.