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Dennis and Pillows....
« on: October 05, 2007, 12:52:32 PM »
I keep hearing and reading things on the Pillow thing and I just thought I'd share my personal point of view since I didn't want to hijack anyone else's weak hand thread...

Okay, this is my take on the Dennis C. and Pillow thing...

   I went to see Pat Petrillo earlier in the year at a clinic and he said that Dennis rely's on "rebound" and has worked hard to control "rebound" and get his chops to sound "clean" and "even" while controlling the stick and "rebound".  Dennis says to use pillows but what cats forget is that he had to redo everything when he got to the kit.  He says so himself.  Sooo, Steve Smith, Dave Weckl, Neil Peart and Adam Nussbaum, which were taught by Freddie Gruber, are saying that we need to use rebound and learn how to let the stick do the work.  They also say that we need to learn how to pull the sound out of the drum instead of diggin' in the drum which a lot of cats that only practice on pillows do.  They make everything sound tight and constantly break sticks, heads and even cymbals.

    Then JoJo Mayer comes out with a DVD showing us that if we work all of our finger muscles and learn how everything works, you can play on anything thus showing us by playing on different surfaces including a piece of paper and a dog gon' pepperoni pizza and even plays on a pillow.  JoJo says that he never practiced on a pillow but rather focused on letting the stick do it's thing and learning the Gladstone and Moeller Principles which he later "Mastered".

...sooooo, I think that JoJo just buried the Pillow Theory next to Buddy Rich and Dennis should've helped make the hole cause he even knows that it's about controlling the stick and "rebound".  LOL 

To get your chops up to date, use the 12" HQ Double Sided Practice Pad (Black Side) and work on the things that are in JoJo Mayer's DVD - Secret Weapons for the Modern Drummer. 


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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2007, 01:04:32 PM »
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2007, 01:21:17 PM »
Thanks JFunky for hitting us with the knowledge. Tonight I am copping the DW Practice kit and JoJo's DVD....
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2007, 01:25:46 PM »
Thanks JFunky for hitting us with the knowledge. Tonight I am copping the DW Practice kit and JoJo's DVD....

I had it.  Get it with the 8" addition pad. ;)
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2007, 01:29:29 PM »
I had it.  Get it with the 8" addition pad. ;)

If they have it in the store I sure will...
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2007, 08:44:15 PM »
Well I went to GC and got some stuff. I copped the DW practice joint for $100.00, stores don't carry the 8, matter fact dude didn't know they had one. Dude thought they were sold out of JoJo's DVD but had a copy behind something, so I got that too. Also a 20 A custom Zildjian ride for $120. So now I will be in my closet watching this joint practicing.
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2007, 09:34:04 AM »
Yeah, but what does Spanky have to say about all of this?

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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2007, 01:39:55 PM »
Yeah, but what does Spanky have to say about all of this?

Don't really know. Let me know when you find out. lol

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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2007, 11:44:04 PM »
so much time wasted on pillows...geeze..couldn't somene mention this sooner...thanks J!

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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2007, 07:47:33 PM »
Okay i admit i use to practice on pillows, but i well use to have a practice pad for my fundermentals. So thanks for the info! JFUNKY!
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2007, 07:54:38 PM »
i use pillow technique before.. but that didnt help me improve "stick control".. i just noticed that theres a lot of tension instead of relaxation on hands while hitting pillows..

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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2007, 06:47:07 PM »
i use pillow technique before.. but that didnt help me improve "stick control".. i just noticed that theres a lot of tension instead of relaxation on hands while hitting pillows..
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2007, 02:28:06 AM »
The pillow thing is something I did when I was too poor to afford drums....I also developed Carpal Tunnel Syndrome at a very early age and had to have surgery on both hands to fix the problem..Im ok and totally healed now but when its about to rain I feel it. Its not healthy on everything to abuse your hands and wrists like that.
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2007, 03:46:02 PM »
You know whats crazy, I was just about to ask if pillows worked better than practice pads. Every video I used to see they said they practiced on pillows. But when I did it, I didn't feel any progression when I got on the set. But with the practice pads, I can feel the progression in my hands, and feel those muscles getting worked out.....................
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Re: Dennis and Pillows....
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2007, 09:47:00 PM »
Well I think it depends on the person cuz dey worked out great for me........but what dennis was saying is true. When you get on the kit you gotta reapply evrything cuz ur hands get WAY faster then ur limbs. Dats the only problem. But I think pads is better. For me pillows worked on the basics and pads make you perfect them.
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