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Offline mdandrews

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help with progression
« on: September 03, 2007, 11:00:44 PM »
what's up ya'll, I'm having a problem with how to identify inversions. When someone does a 7-3-6 it messes me up. If it's not played in the root position then i'm lost. That go's for any progression. I'm still learning how to play and i know it  will take time for me to play, but this if killing me. Anyone has words of advice

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Re: help with progression
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007, 12:07:55 AM »
join the party, you and me both are in the same boat.
Someone suppose to be sending me info on this and when I get it I will pass it on to you.
He is a very well known bass player.

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Re: help with progression
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 07:02:44 AM »
what's up ya'll, I'm having a problem with how to identify inversions. When someone does a 7-3-6 it messes me up. If it's not played in the root position then i'm lost. That go's for any progression. I'm still learning how to play and i know it  will take time for me to play, but this if killing me. Anyone has words of advice

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                                           Mike

Well, the most important part of a 7-3-6 or any progression is the bass notes.  If u know the bass notes, then it shouldn't mess u up.  People have different ways of playing things based on the sound they want, but the bass notes will always be the same.

My suggestions is to start practicing progressions in all inversions possible.  Don't just rely on one way to play something, have at least 2 or 3 ways as back-up when u want to mix up your playing a little.  Now, if u only know one way to play, then that's fine too, just incoporate learning some different ways into your practice.
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Re: help with progression
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 06:50:23 PM »
Thanks T. 3975 i would love if you could do that thanks

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Re: help with progression
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2007, 12:44:23 PM »
Thanks T.
No problem Drew. As soon as I get it I will send it to you, but for now if you go to
cyberfretbass.com and click on the left hand side where it say scales or arpeggios read it
it has been very very helpful for me, but I am having problems putting all the pieces together
to make that first progression by myself or to finally here something that I play and it actually
make sense.
Let me know what you think. It is a really nice website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

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Re: help with progression
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2007, 05:46:27 PM »
Along with T-blocks posts, this link is what helped me because it shows the actual inversions and the formulas. Let me know if this helps or not.
http://www.learngospelmusic.com/piano/theorychords.php?instrument=Keyboard
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Re: help with progression
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2007, 07:21:12 PM »
Hey thanks Cheve, I have all that, but I don't understand how you apply all that to playing.
It's like you have all of these puzzle pieces and you can't figure out where they go. ?/?

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Re: help with progression
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2007, 08:52:26 PM »
Hey thanks Cheve, I have all that, but I don't understand how you apply all that to playing.
It's like you have all of these puzzle pieces and you can't figure out where they go. ?/?

You apply the inversion the exact same way as the root position chords.  So, if u play root position chords like this:

C / C-E-G  *root position C major chord
F / F-A-C  * root position F major chord
(repeat)

Then, use the 1st inversion and play them the exact same way:

C / E-G-C  *1st inversion C major chord
F / A-C-F  *1st inversion F major chord
(repeat)

Then move on to the 2nd inversion:

C / G-C-E  *2nd inversion C major chord
F / C-F-A  *2nd inversion F major chord
(repeat)

Now, after u get good with that, then u look at the chords and see if they got any notes in common.  This way, u can play the chords and not move your hand much, u use notes from one chord and switch to the other chord:

C-E-G  and  F-A-C  have the note C in common.  So, using those inversions above, I'm gonna show u how to play those 2 chords, but keep one finger on C:

C / C-E-G  *root position C major chord
F / C-F-A  *2nd inversion F major chord
(repeat)

C / E-G-C  *1st inversion C major chord
F / F-A-C  *root position F major chord
(repeat)

C / G-C-E  *2nd inversion C major chord
F / A-C-F  *1st inversion F major chord
(repeat)

You see how that works?  I played all both chords, but I utilizied the inversions so that I didn't have to jump for every chord, my hand stayed in one place.  Does that make more sense to ya?  Let me know, I can try to break it down even more if u need it.
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Re: help with progression
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2007, 07:20:31 AM »
Hey T,
can you send me an email on that. I am a newbie so I am trying to get an understanding of what and how to use this.
EX. do you play all the chords C E G, like that then go to E G C, or is this just an example of how you can use these different
patterns in a song. That's where I get confused. I know if we are playing the 1 4 5, in the key of Cm,you start with the C,
cause that is the root note right, then move to the 4(F) and I guess to the G(5), but what next? u c what I am saying? I think
I get confused because I see them doing the fills and they move out of the pocket and then come back and I be thinking that
they have added another progression in there.

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Re: help with progression
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2007, 10:57:27 AM »
What I gave you was ways to play a progression using chord inversions.  That's what u said u was having trouble with, chord inversions.  From your question now it looks like u having trouble with putting different progressions together and using fill-ins.  Is that correct?
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Re: help with progression
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2007, 12:37:26 PM »
This post is helping me too.

Thanks.
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Re: help with progression
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2007, 11:52:58 AM »
Hey, T
that is correct. So can you help me?

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Re: help with progression
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2007, 07:05:13 PM »
T-block you are such a tremendous blessing!! BELIEVE THAT  ;)
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