snare drum lick to learn...*ADVANCED*..

[j_kay]

 

[theLearner]

I said " look at all these superstars.....blah blah" that was a joke even though you guys really are blessed on drums.....
Then I was asking if less experienced drummers, like myself, can ask you question from time to time even though we are complete strangers. (just to clarify your statement about the pm lines being open)

[j_kay]

Yo, feel free to PM any one of us with your questions.  The doors to the PM are open. 

[sugabear]

Yo, feel free to PM any one of us with your questions.  The doors to the PM are open. 

The doors to the pm swing on welcom hinges.

[dude-on-drums]

The doors to the pm swing on welcom hinges.

...speak for yourself, i hate pm's...

[SabianKnight]

I said " look at all these superstars.....blah blah" that was a joke even though you guys really are blessed on drums.....
Then I was asking if less experienced drummers, like myself, can ask you question from time to time even though we are complete strangers. (just to clarify your statement about the pm lines being open)

Learner u know its the each one teach one thang. Seek bro seek...

[SabianKnight]

it's further than a beginner's stage SIR!!....

It actually is a beginner stage thing IF you were completely taught your double stroke rolls which can and are played with various duple pulsings. The one demonstrated is really based off a 12/8 counting where the second stroke of each hand is the "&" ie 1&2&3&   4&5&6&   7(sev)&8&9&   10&11(lev)&12&
Shown here broken down in 3 note or triplet grouping creating the 4 quarter beats of 4/4 or C (common) time. This is taught in Stick Control and in master Studies off the top of my head.

Basically this is how you roll with a swing pulse. Heard often in jazz and the way demonstrated in the clip is really seen in N'awlins style second line music and funk grooves a la the Meters (Zigaboo Modeliste), Stanton Moore, John Vidacovich.

Problem is that these days swing or triplet based 6/8, 12/8 pulses are not being taught and they are the true base of American Music in particular the music involving the drum set. Now when you add the triple stroke roll (another basic rudiment we are not taught) to the swing pulse and start cranking out nuntuplet/ninuplets and 12s you really settling in. Hint Tony Royster is doing the triple stroke rolls (or nines if you count it in 8 note triplet 4/4) when he is demonstrating using the Moellor for fast "singles" on his latest DVD. The clip is on YouTube.

So let's not get testy when we don't know let's learn.

[JFunky]

It actually is a beginner stage thing IF you were completely taught your double stroke rolls which can and are played with various duple pulsings. The one demonstrated is really based off a 12/8 counting where the second stroke of each hand is the "&" ie 1&2&3&   4&5&6&   7(sev)&8&9&   10&11(lev)&12&
Shown here broken down in 3 note or triplet grouping creating the 4 quarter beats of 4/4 or C (common) time. This is taught in Stick Control and in master Studies off the top of my head.

Basically this is how you roll with a swing pulse. Heard often in jazz and the way demonstrated in the clip is really seen in N'awlins style second line music and funk grooves a la the Meters (Zigaboo Modeliste), Stanton Moore, John Vidacovich.

Problem is that these days swing or triplet based 6/8, 12/8 pulses are not being taught and they are the true base of American Music in particular the music involving the drum set. Now when you add the triple stroke roll (another basic rudiment we are not taught) to the swing pulse and start cranking out nuntuplet/ninuplets and 12s you really settling in. Hint Tony Royster is doing the triple stroke rolls (or nines if you count it in 8 note triplet 4/4) when he is demonstrating using the Moellor for fast "singles" on his latest DVD. The clip is on YouTube.

So let's not get testy when we don't know let's learn.

Tony does a lot of advanced fills and rolls.  I love how he disguises his rudiments with all of his limbs.