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Offline bassthumpa

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"Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« on: July 27, 2007, 11:11:25 AM »
From the "Reality Advice" thread:

Quote from: SisterT on July 27, 2007, 11:04:30 AM
That's the "good" pride. It's okay to have pride in oneself. But when it get to the point that you think you look & are better than someone else, that becomes the "bad" pride.

This is something I'd like to discuss. 

Proverbs 16:18 - "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

If we go by the Word, how is there a good pride?  The word doesn't say some pride, it just says pride.  So is there really such a thing as "good" Pride?
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2007, 11:15:30 AM »
Quote from: bassthumpa on July 27, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
From the "Reality Advice" thread:

This is something I'd like to discuss. 

Proverbs 16:18 - "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

If we go by the Word, how is there a good pride?  The word doesn't say some pride goeth up before destuction.  So is there really such a thing as "good" Pride?

Absolutely!!

What's wrong in having pride in oneself. A person who doesn't have pride in onself is a person who has low self-esteem. I don't think God intends for us to look down upon ourselves.

Take the scripture in the content of what it is talking about. This pride that the scripture speaks about is when you think too highly of yourself.

God says I'm fearfully and wonderfully made. I'm proud of that fact!! No sin there. The sin would come when I think I'm more fearfully and more wonderfully made than another created being.
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2007, 11:16:31 AM »
Quote from: bassthumpa on July 27, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
From the "Reality Advice" thread:

This is something I'd like to discuss. 

Proverbs 16:18 - "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

If we go by the Word, how is there a good pride?  The word doesn't say some pride, it just says pride.  So is there really such a thing as "good" Pride?


I can't be proud that I got an 'A' in my grad school course?

I can't be proud of my occupation?

 ::)


Aren't we being a bit 'deep' wit this one, bruh?
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2007, 11:17:22 AM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on July 27, 2007, 11:16:31 AM

Aren't we being a bit 'deep' wit this one, bruh?

Yes!!

Now where are my boots!   :D
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2007, 11:18:14 AM »
Quote from: SisterT on July 27, 2007, 11:17:22 AM
Yes!!

Now where are my boots!   :D


PPWWWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ;D :D ;D
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2007, 11:19:22 AM »
I believe we should have pride but as it has been said before you have to also know when to be humble. Pride comes before the fall. Sometimes our Pride can cause us to miss out on blessings and honestly hearing from the Lord.

I'm proud to be me but not to the point of arrogance or ignorance, thats when it gets ugly.
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2007, 11:20:13 AM »
Quote from: sjonathan02 on July 27, 2007, 11:16:31 AM

I can't be proud that I got an 'A' in my grad school course?

I can't be proud of my occupation?

 ::)


Aren't we being a bit 'deep' wit this one, bruh?

Goodness, it was just a question... doesn't have to be deep. :)
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2007, 11:21:09 AM »
Quote from: bassthumpa on July 27, 2007, 11:20:13 AM
Goodness, it was just a question...

And it was answered.

Now let's all huddle up for a group hug!
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2007, 11:21:42 AM »
Dude, I get the question... but, uhhh... if I were to go down the list of things I'm "proud" of myself for... y'all would really think I was prideful (in the bad way.... lol)!  LOL!!!

Seriously, there is NOTHING wrong with being proud of yourself or your accomplishments, as long as you give glory to God for it, and not take credit yourself.  Everything I have and do is because of Him.  Every degree, certificate, outfit, hat, car, house, shoe, dollar, child, client, paycheck, etc... it all comes from HIM, and I'm proud to have it.

I kinda don't have too much to say on this topic bc Sis T really sealed it in the other thread... she set it straight, I thought.
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2007, 11:22:36 AM »
Quote from: SisterT on July 27, 2007, 11:21:09 AM
And it was answered.

Now let's all huddle up for a group hug!



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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2007, 11:22:57 AM »
Sorry... typing at the same time.

Yes, asked, answered...

**getting in for the group hug**
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2007, 11:24:16 AM »
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2007, 11:30:10 AM »
Umm that doesn't look like any of us...And why does the guy in the middle look like he is in pain...I will pass on that group hug
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2007, 11:31:40 AM »
Quote from: Keys410 on July 27, 2007, 11:30:10 AM
Umm that doesn't look like any of us...And why does the guy in the middle look like he is in pain...I will pass on that group hug

I was wondering which one was supposed to be me...  ?/?  I guess I got left out of the group hug...  :-\
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2007, 11:33:20 AM »
Quote from: Keys410 on July 27, 2007, 11:30:10 AM
Umm that doesn't look like any of us...And why does the guy in the middle look like he is in pain...I will pass on that group hug

I'm with you mane.  Just gimmie some dap and we're good.
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2007, 11:36:10 AM »
Ya'll so crazy.....BUT, I still prefer a hug!  :D
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2007, 11:57:24 AM »
Quote from: SisterT on July 27, 2007, 11:21:09 AM
And it was answered.

Now let's all huddle up for a group hug!

This is why all of us  at LGM love u so much Sister T (the mediator of mediators) No messing around - just facts and straight to the point responses. U always keep things mellow (to speak :) and never let things get out of hand. (referee ;D)  U keep reminding us that we are a family- A SPIRITUAL FAMILY in which the basis is LOVE.
Thank U.  I'm sure that we all feel the same.
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2007, 12:20:31 PM »
Quote from: Wash on July 27, 2007, 11:57:24 AM
This is why all of us  at LGM love u so much Sister T (the mediator of mediators) No messing around - just facts and straight to the point responses. U always keep things mellow (to speak :) and never let things get out of hand. (referee ;D)  U keep reminding us that we are a family- A SPIRITUAL FAMILY in which the basis is LOVE.
Thank U.  I'm sure that we all feel the same.

God Bless you.  :)
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
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Re: "Good" Pride? "Bad" Pride?
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2007, 05:38:18 PM »
Im sorry for beating on this dead horse...something worries me.

Heres my worry...
Isn't pride (as a word and state in itself) fuelled of vile? I mean isn't it in the same class as revenge? I mean i recently heard (someway,somehow) that as christians, we should have revenge on the devil. Again revenge, doesnt sound at all godly, and pride as an attribute is sounding very similar. "Vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord". I understand the sentiments surrounding the idea of pride (Whatever the instance, personal or collective. Whatever the level of achievement, i would assume that it should be called something other than pride) is pride really a God-like quality? As i type this now, theres an increased awareness in my spirit about the first chapter of the bible. (Paraphrasing) When God saw all that HE had made, HE saw that it was good. Thats what it should be.

Thank You.
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