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Offline jkb

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how can i play the singing parts on the keyboard, like auto, treble,tennor on the keyboard for every song..?

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alto, soprano, tenor

I don't know how to explain it. You basically just listen to the song and play what you hear the voices doing.

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I think this questioned has been answered a few times now, but basically the voices are the basic parts of the chord.

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I think this questioned has been answered a few times now, but basically the voices are the basic parts of the chord.

the first note in the chord is the tenor note,the second note is the alto,the third note is sopranoes

example CEG

     The c note is the tenor,the e note is alto,g note is the sopronoes

if we was to invert the chord to EGC

The e note will be tenor,g note will alto,the c note will be sopronoes.

basically the tenor to the alto note,the alto to the sopronoe note and the sopronoes to the tenor note.I hope this help u
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thanks for your help.,,,,,,,,,,,,
   
 God bless

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Someone told me this(but i never knew that if you play the chord inverted, that it would change), but I still don't understand it. For one, what if you don't play basic chords?

Can someone, if possible, explain it a little more in depth?
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The chord structure changes not necessarily the chord itself

basic Ex., CMaj - see 2tight ex also...
CEG - root
EGC - 1st Inversion
GCE - 2nd Inversion


 

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Basically, what u have to do is play what u hear the choir singing.  If you listen closely, you can hear 3 distinct voices.  The voice that sounds the highest is the soprano.  The voice that sounds the lowest is the tenor.  The voice in the middle is the alto.  What you have to do is follow one voice through the whole song and write down all the notes that voice sings.  When u put all 3 voices toghether, it should form some type of basic chord (major, minor, aug., dim.) which may or may not be what the musician is playing.

I hope that helps.
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thanks for your help.,,,,,,,,,,,,
   
 God bless

u welcome.
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Well, me coming from a singing family, I kind of naturally hear the parts and after listening to them...I can know them. I was just curious(since the thread was posted) how to find the harmony parts. In our church choir(we have a little church with a lot of non musically-inclined members) and even there will always be a discussion on if they are teaching the right part. Now, theres a second pianist besides me who sometimes figures out the part on by using the keyboard and notes. Thats what I would like to do. Maybe after messing around with simple songs, I can figure out how to do the complicated songs.


Id be nice when the day comes where I can figure out a part using the keyboard and actually have confidence in me finding it since I will have learned how to find it using the keyboard. ;)
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Well, me coming from a singing family, I kind of naturally hear the parts and after listening to them...I can know them. I was just curious(since the thread was posted) how to find the harmony parts. In our church choir(we have a little church with a lot of non musically-inclined members) and even there will always be a discussion on if they are teaching the right part. Now, theres a second pianist besides me who sometimes figures out the part on by using the keyboard and notes. Thats what I would like to do. Maybe after messing around with simple songs, I can figure out how to do the complicated songs.


Id be nice when the day comes where I can figure out a part using the keyboard and actually have confidence in me finding it since I will have learned how to find it using the keyboard. ;)

sometimes i have a hard time hearing parts.u will be good at figuring out the parts.I have confindence in u.the chord that the pianist is playing r the parts.

for example
               ACE

the a note is the tenor part
the c note is the alto part
the e note is the soproanoe part

the reason that the a note is the tenor part because is the lower
the reason that the c note is the alto part because is in the middle.so that mean that they r singing between the tenor and sopronoe note.If they r singing higher then the sopronoes they r wrong.
The reason that the e note is the sopronoe note because they r singing higher then the alto and tenor

now im going to show u how to invert parts.That means they will be taking switching parts.

for example
             CEA

The is c note is the tenor note.The tenor took the alto part
the e note is the alto note.the alto took the sopronoe part
the a note is the sopronoe note.the sopronoe took the tenor part.

i hope this help u.
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sometimes i have a hard time hearing parts.u will be good at figuring out the parts.I have confindence in u.the chord that the pianist is playing r the parts.

for example
               ACE

the a note is the tenor part
the c note is the alto part
the e note is the soproanoe part

the reason that the a note is the tenor part because is the lower
the reason that the c note is the alto part because is in the middle.so that mean that they r singing between the tenor and sopronoe note.If they r singing higher then the sopronoes they r wrong.
The reason that the e note is the sopronoe note because they r singing higher then the alto and tenor

now im going to show u how to invert parts.That means they will be taking switching parts.

for example
             CEA

The is c note is the tenor note.The tenor took the alto part
the e note is the alto note.the alto took the sopronoe part
the a note is the sopronoe note.the sopronoe took the tenor part.

i hope this help u.


thanks...


So what about if its a more complex chord instead of a simple basic chord? Do you know anything about that?
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The same thing applies even u hit a more complex chord.

example
           
FACEG

 The F will be the bass note
 The A will be the baritone note
  The C will be the Tenor note
  The E will be the Alto note
  The G will be the sopronoe note

inversion
           ACEGF

  The A note will be the bass note.THe bass took the baritone part
   THe C note will be the baritone part.The baritone took the tenor part
   The E note will be the tenor part.THe tenors took the alto part
   The G note will be the alto part.THe altos took the sopronoes part
   The F note will be the sopronoe part.The sopronoes took the bass part
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Oh, okay. I guess Im gonna have to mess around with that.


So, if a song is played one way...but I invert some chords in the middle of the song..I have to keep in mind that the parts go according to the simple way of the chords for the songs....ehh, I can't really explain what Im saying.
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Oh, okay. I guess Im gonna have to mess around with that.


So, if a song is played one way...but I invert some chords in the middle of the song..I have to keep in mind that the parts go according to the simple way of the chords for the songs....ehh, I can't really explain what Im saying.

THe chords that u r playing  is the alto,sopronoes,tenor part.The only thing u got to do is break down the chords that u r playing to single note to teach the choir parts.Every song don't have 3 part harmony.alot of time u can sing unison.
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The same thing applies even u hit a more complex chord.

example
           
FACEG

 The F will be the bass note
 The A will be the baritone note
  The C will be the Tenor note
  The E will be the Alto note
  The G will be the sopronoe note

inversion
           ACEGF

  The A note will be the bass note.THe bass took the baritone part
   THe C note will be the baritone part.The baritone took the tenor part
   The E note will be the tenor part.THe tenors took the alto part
   The G note will be the alto part.THe altos took the sopronoes part
   The F note will be the sopronoe part.The sopronoes took the bass part


I wouldn't go that far.  I don't care how complicated the chord is that the piano player plays, what the choir sings will 99% of the time form a basic (major, minor, aug., dim.) chord.  The reason why that applies is because once u get all these people singing all these different voices, it will be more difficult for them to move as a unit through an entire song.

The fact is, choir parts are not based on what the music is doing.  The music is based on what the choir does.  Since u don't want the musician to just mimic the choir, the piano player can add in all those "fancy" chords that will help enhance the basic chord formed by the choir.

The only way to figure out choir parts is to ignore the music and focus on the voices.  Listening to the music can get u in trouble.  Take one voice, follow it through a song, then take the next voice, etc. until u got all parts written down.
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I wouldn't go that far.  I don't care how complicated the chord is that the piano player plays, what the choir sings will 99% of the time form a basic (major, minor, aug., dim.) chord.  The reason why that applies is because once u get all these people singing all these different voices, it will be more difficult for them to move as a unit through an entire song.

The fact is, choir parts are not based on what the music is doing.  The music is based on what the choir does.  Since u don't want the musician to just mimic the choir, the piano player can add in all those "fancy" chords that will help enhance the basic chord formed by the choir.

The only way to figure out choir parts is to ignore the music and focus on the voices.  Listening to the music can get u in trouble.  Take one voice, follow it through a song, then take the next voice, etc. until u got all parts written down.

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I wouldn't go that far.  I don't care how complicated the chord is that the piano player plays, what the choir sings will 99% of the time form a basic (major, minor, aug., dim.) chord.  The reason why that applies is because once u get all these people singing all these different voices, it will be more difficult for them to move as a unit through an entire song.

The fact is, choir parts are not based on what the music is doing.  The music is based on what the choir does.  Since u don't want the musician to just mimic the choir, the piano player can add in all those "fancy" chords that will help enhance the basic chord formed by the choir.

The only way to figure out choir parts is to ignore the music and focus on the voices.  Listening to the music can get u in trouble.  Take one voice, follow it through a song, then take the next voice, etc. until u got all parts written down.

I agree with T-Block.  I took the song "Revelation 19:1" by Stephen Hurd, and listened to each part.  I was surprised by the simplicity of the parts, but yet the beautiful harmony it produced!!

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I agree with T and Bro. Allen...

That is why I pointed to the basic parts of the chord, if you strip the 9th, 13th etc., and find the basic chord with the melody of a song on the piano, you can find the harmony parts because they will fall within a basic chord.

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