sounds like something that people who CANT shed say! 
Im not tryin to start nothin but you dont need to defend billy cause we all know he can play fluently in a shed or in a band and he can solo. period. secondly, a good drummer is in the OPINION of the listener and what the listener prefers to hear. thirdly, check stanley's myspace to see that he CAN play in a band. They are both advanced musicians.
i dont understand your comment to this thread cause its about shedding. not giging. so let me get this straight, your opinion of a good drummer is one who can play soundly with a band? what about without a band? soloing or in a shed? reading or charting? teaching or instructing? arent these things a part of being a well rounded and talented musician?
(just my thoughts)
ps. what does "you knowing him personally" have to do with anything? (just wondering)
Sheen
You do know, "I'm not trying to start nothing" was negated when you said, "what does "you knowing him personally" have to do with anything? (just wondering)" ?
Secondly, that's not a shed. That's a jam session. You dude's get together, trade licks to the point of nauseum, and feel like a champ when you walk out the door. What did you just accomplish? How did you get better? If you want to get together and jam, that's cool. However, call it what it is. You wouldn't play that way, anywhere else, other than with your friends.
For you people who insist on showing what you got - puttin' all of your chops on display, and emptying our your bag of fills, is way over-done. Some of us prefer to feel what you have to say, musically. I would hope that all of these jam sessions are teaching you discipline, and how to apply this stuff in musical setting. But, let's get for real. Too many younger cat's are way too anxious to show off the new lick they've learned. That's why they flock to these jam sessions...
As for "that's what people who can't shed say":
Dude, BBD is an older cat .... and I'm not as old as him, but my early twenties are becoming a distant memory. I wish you could open up your mind enough to see that SOME OF US AREN'T INTO THAT ANYMORE. At one point, I was just as fascinated by learning new fills as you guys are today. Being able to 'shed', as you all call it, means absolutely nothing next to being a great musical instrumentalist. SOME of, at this stage, find fulfillment in playing music. You guys have to flock to these events, 'cause you don't find fulfillment in 'simply' playing music right now. To you, playing in a musical setting is too restricting. You need to get with your boys and let it all hang out. Hell, I been there. So, I understand. I'm just trying to get you to see that, after awhile, that ish get's old, and you start to mature and focus on making GREAT music. Like I said, at the end of the day, that's what it's all about...... making music.
Nobody wants to post clips of them grooving with a group of their friends. Why? That's boring to so many of you dudes. They're like little kids with all of this energy. Most of the older musicians are like adults tellin' these young kids to settle down. However, it's against their natures, at that point in their lives.
But, whatever..... you'll probably come back with, "that's what people who can't shed say", as if that amounts to a hill of beans. I imagine to you, being able to show off your new licks to your friends means the world.
